Mapei Grout

[diamondtiling]

This is an interesting debate, as i know a few guys that do site work and they always grout the internals and Silicon over the top. The Mastic Man i know insists on it, as you get a better finish with the Silicon (although it clearly isn't doing its job!?!?!). This is on residential properties; the only time they leave proper expansion gaps is on large commercial jobs.

I always leave the grout out of internals and where the floor meets the walls in order to Silicon. Anyone who silicones over grout is making a mistake and needs to do it properly. It is asking for future problems with expansion issues etc. The whole point of not grouting these areas is so that the Silicon is pushed into the joint to gain purchase on the tiles, its not just for cosmetic reasons.

 

[Minnie]

They rarely do, so i wouldn't worry too much about that. Looks good!

I was expecting you to notice that the grout lines on the tiles above and below the mosaics don't match either.

Don't know what happened there!

Off to do the sealing now. I hate sealing. Nasty, messy, horrible smelly work :lol:

 

[Minnie]

This is an interesting debate, as i know a few guys that do site work and they always grout the internals and Silicon over the top. The Mastic Man i know insists on it, as you get a better finish with the Silicon (although it clearly isn't doing its job!?!?!). This is on residential properties; the only time they leave proper expansion gaps is on large commercial jobs.

I always leave the grout out of internals and where the floor meets the walls in order to Silicon. Anyone who silicones over grout is making a mistake and needs to do it properly. It is asking for future problems with expansion issues etc. The whole point of not grouting these areas is so that the Silicon is pushed into the joint to gain purchase on the tiles, its not just for cosmetic reasons.

I'll let you two fight it out :smilewinkgrin:

 

[diamondtiling]

If thats your first attempt at tiling Minnie then you should be proud of yourself. You came on here and asked loads of questions, you persevered and kept going ( to the pub ) :8:
but it looks like all your questions and tenacity paid off. I have seen many bathrooms tiled by so called "professionals" far far worse than yours. You deserve a round of applause Girly, well done!

 

[Minnie]

If thats your first attempt at tiling Minnie then you should be proud of yourself. You came on here and asked loads of questions, you persevered and kept going ( to the pub ) :8:
but it looks like all your questions and tenacity paid off. I have seen many bathrooms tiled by so called "professionals" far far worse than yours. You deserve a round of applause Girly, well done!

Yeah, but you haven't seen all the er, balls-ups which I've not taken photos of :smilewinkgrin:, and I'm sure if I zoomed in a bit, you'd be able to pick it to pieces, but still, yeah, considering the job that was there, and considering there's around 14 different surfaces/angles, I think I'm happy enough. I know there are areas that when I'm sitting in the bath, I'm going to curse myself for not re-doing them, but hey ho :smilewinkgrin:

Will post up photos of before and after later. Haven't started sealing yet, b/f's just made me another cup of tea. Very hard to get any work done when you have to keep going to pub and b/f keeps making tea

 

[Deleted member 9966]

hey Minnie

Just seen your last photo. It's looking very good Almost finished now?

Liz

 

[mikethetile]

well done minnie

 

[Minnie]

hey Minnie

Just seen your last photo. It's looking very good Almost finished now?

Liz

Just attepting to do the seal but making a right pig's ear of it. :mad2:
Have now put masking tape on the edges in the hope that it doesn't stick underneath the silicon. I know you told me about that tape, but I never got round to getting it. Wondering how long I should leave the masking tape up before attempting to rip it off.

 

[diamondtiling]

It will probably pull the Silicon off Minnie if you leave it too long, try and cut a small angled hole in the nozzle, this will give you a thinner line which is easier to work with, Try the washing up liquid approach, it will help you loads. Just have a practice first.

 

[Minnie]

It will probably pull the Silicon off Minnie if you leave it too long, try and cut a small angled hole in the nozzle, this will give you a thinner line which is easier to work with, Try the washing up liquid approach, it will help you loads. Just have a practice first.

already did the washing up liquid approach, but I was using a bigger nozzle (the remains from when I sealed bath to wall) and I was doing the window sill. Because I'm too scared to stand on my horizontal tiles in case they crack, I was working at an awkward angle.

Anyway, put masking tape on other joins and making less of a hash of it. Have spent the last half hour trying to remove the sealant from the window sill area. It's a total mess. :lol:

 

[DHTiling]

I didn't know you could apply Silicon with a catapult minnie...:lol:....



This is what you want... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsmSQfQBYBs]YouTube - How to seal a bath perfectly with CornerTape (3 way corner)[/ame]


available from topps.

 

[Minnie]

I didn't know you could apply Silicon with a catapult minnie...:lol:....



This is what you want... YouTube - How to seal a bath perfectly with CornerTape (3 way corner)


available from topps.

I didn't use a catapult. Why do things small when you've got a big job. I used one of these

bah, and I was at Topps yesterday getting the Bal grout. Didn't know they sold that stuff.

Anyway, the grey tape (not sure what it's called) was a bad mistake. Left adhesive on the tiles and lifted the sealant. However, Kleen Edge masking tape is fine as it's non-tacky and comes off without lifting the sealant.

 

[M_M_Suzie]

Hi,

I wanted to attach the updated Ultracolor Plus Mixing guide for you; our technical team can you with this - 0121 508 6970 - option 2 [email protected]

 

[Deleted member 9966]

thanks for that Suzie but the instructions state that you need a mechanical mixer on a slow speed setting. what about the DIYers out there that don't have a mechanical mixer and have to mix by hand?

 

[Gazzer]

thanks for that Suzie but the instructions state that you need a mechanical mixer on a slow speed setting. what about the DIYers out there that don't have a mechanical mixer and have to mix by hand?

You can get a paddle from the pound shop etc....price hmmmmm £1 and most people have a drill