New Floor Tiles Lifting

[johnboy 2]

The tiles come up whole, easily with just mainly a a paint scraper, the ply base easily cleans up, seems no real adhesion???

 

[Just Rizzle]

The tiles come up whole, easily with just mainly a a paint scraper, the ply base easily cleans up, seems no real adhesion???

understand your frustration fella got a similar floor to sort out in a couple of weeks time. id love to help u out but fully booked up till mid july

 

[johnboy 2]

understand your frustration fella got a similar floor to sort out in a couple of weeks time. id love to help u out but fully booked up till mid july

Do you think it's an adhesive problem?.

 

[Just Rizzle]

Do you think it's an adhesive problem?.

with out a doughty m8 the addys sticking to the tiles but not the ply . I would remove all the tiles take up the ply and ether stick and screew hardy backer board or use a decouljing method, ie ditra matting
if your a trades man im sure you could relay this your self especially as there coming un easily. may be using the same tiles if you remove the addy from the back of the tiles there already cut to shape . replace ply with h/b board . then re stick with a s1 addy get a 8 mm trowel and antie s your bob.

 

[Andy Allen]

if your tiling onto ply theres only one addy I would use that's bal flex 2part addy had to take a floor up 3 weeks ago which was stuck down with this addy took over3 hrs with sds to remove 3 mts sq its a rubber based addy
but to be honest haven't used for several years and not sure if bal still do it, was very expensive addy.

The adhesive is called bal single part fast flex it was a 2 part adhesive but you just mix it with water now.
It will still stick wings to an aeroplane though and is very flexible.

 

[johnboy 2]

with out a doughty m8 the addys sticking to the tiles but not the ply . I would remove all the tiles take up the ply and ether stick and screew hardy backer board or use a decouljing method, ie ditra matting
if your a trades man im sure you could relay this your self especially as there coming un easily. may be using the same tiles if you remove the addy from the back of the tiles there already cut to shape . replace ply with h/b board . then re stick with a s1 addy get a 8 mm trowel and antie s your bob.

with out a doughty m8 the addys sticking to the tiles but not the ply . I would remove all the tiles take up the ply and ether stick and screew hardy backer board or use a decouljing method, ie ditra matting
if your a trades man im sure you could relay this your self especially as there coming un easily. may be using the same tiles if you remove the addy from the back of the tiles there already cut to shape . replace ply with h/b board . then re stick with a s1 addy get a 8 mm trowel and antie s your bob.

Can't take up the ply without stripping all the new bathroom as in image.

 

[Dan]

Get nifty with a saw, you can cut around the bath and perimeter, and then lift the loo.

Alternatively, I'm wondering if you can pull up the tiles and then cut wedi board and screw to the dodgy ply? Not sure if that meets regulations and whatnot but I'm wondering if it would work, maybe the professional lads could confirm?

 

[johnboy 2]

Cutting really wool weaken the structure of the floor, the ply isn't dodgy at all?????

 

[Dan]

Ahhhh sorry I just read the thread properly again. I thought it was a ply fail situation.

 

[johnboy 2]

Going to bite the bullet, went today and got some replacement tiles, the supplier said the very best for my situation is Bal Rapid Flex Fiber plus, Bal Acrylic primer, with Bal Micromax 2 grout Do you pro's agree before I start?
Thanks

 

[Bathfix Bob]

I still wouldn't tile on ply, I did around 6 bathrooms tiling on ply year ago and at least 5 have had problems.

It makes me shudder going anywhere near it again, Use Hardiebacker.

Is the plumber going to sort at his expense like I had to Johnboy??

 

[johnboy 2]

Is there any Pro's who have an opinion on the adhesive sold to me to redo the floor?
Cheers

 

[AliGage]

This is an interesting one. What was the original adhesive used, and did your fixer prime the floor before fixing?
Is it all the floor or just a select few?

 

[p4ulo]

I would screw and glue (flexible tile adhesive) down some 6mm Hardi-backer onto your nice and clean ply and start again....re-use the tiles (if you can).