Plastic ply used it but not sure about it!!!

[peckers]

Plastic ply by N&C Nicobond!!
Had two bathrooms to tile walls and floors well the owner had supplied everything!
The floors were 22mm tongue and grooved floor boards, there was no deflection or movement in the floor so i screwed the boards down and then applied acrylic sealer,
Right then onto the plastic ply peeled of the backing and layed onto floor in brickbond as per the instructions, boy is it sticky!!
Cutting the mat with a pair of large scissors not to bad as long as you dont have to cut threw the logo on it, this is quite tuff stuff!
First thing i realised is that the plastic ply has the sticky backing all over and there is no holes in it between the plastic to allow the adhesive to pass threw and stick to the actual floor. the adhesive just sticks to the actual sticky sheet!
plastic ply down lazer level on and cant see the red line the plastic just reflects the line and it bounces off! argh..
Chalk line out cant see that either,:incazzato:Had to scribe a line using chinagraph marker to follow!
Any way tiled the floor with granfix ultimate flex adhesive and returned the next day to grout! Then the owner told me that they were hanging the door on the outside this time not as it was before argh have to remove two tiles and put in new ones!
Removing tiles was really hard was suprised how well the adhesive had stuck to the plastic ply! It had stuck really well, i looked at the adhesive and tiles as i was removing them you could see where the adhesive had sunk into the ply impressions and had really gripped onto it, but on the other hand you could see where the sticky back sheet had been in contact with the adhesive! and the adhesive doesn't actually stick to the floor itself! But while lifting the tiles and cleaning off the adhesive the plastic ply did remain totally stuck to the floor!

Any hows im not sure about it as the adhesive doesent actually make contact with the floor, But then again everything does stick togeather very well!
And it is difficult to mark out prior to tiling, maybe the colour needs to be changed to make it easier or for the finish to be matt rather then glossy?
But on the other hand it is quick and easy to lay.

Has anyone else used it and what did you think of it?
steve....

 

[White Room]

Not used or even seen in any suppliers

 

[Homefront Tiler]

9mm ply and 25 mm screws secured at 100mm spacing.....................
Some customers will supply what ever a salemen can convince them is right. I always stick to my guns and use what i'm comfortable with.

answering your question - - - never seen it.

 

[peckers]

9mm ply and 25 mm screws secured at 100mm spacing.....................
Some customers will supply what ever a salemen can convince them is right. I always stick to my guns and use what i'm comfortable with.

answering your question - - - never seen it.

I must admit that i normally stick with tried and tested materials etc, But this is a relativeley new product and it has good right ups, and i did phone nicobond to make sure it was suitable and they said it was!
And i decided to give it a try. But not sure about it. if its still there in ten years i will be happy

 

[Colour Republic]

I had a brief look at plastic ply a couple of months back, the idea of it just didn't sit right with me but to be fair I have never seen it in the flesh.

I look forward to some replys as I hope somebody else has some experiance for another take on it

 

[Spud]

I tiled on some floors recently where the ufh firm had used this onto floor boards first, then levelled, ufh ,then more leveller the job will be handed over mid december ,so we should know by next easter whether it has worked or not ,I am still not convinced but will be open minded until I see a failure

 

[enduro]

I have been given a box of this today...Anyone else used it and got and feedback?

 

[Stewart]

personally I think it's rubbish.... I've got 10 square metres rotting in my store with no intension of using it. I've also ripped up a couple of jobs where its been used...

 

[White Room]

Was the floors failing Stewart for you to rip them up.

 

[Ian]

I've never seen or used it, is it meant to add any strength or is it more like a hardie, just a better surface to tile to?

 

[enduro]

No wonder the guy gave it to me for nothing. Got ten packs, and at £15 per pack i might sell it on flea bay.

 

[Stewart]

Floor completely failed, but that was also down to fixer error. It was installed on top of chipboard and t&g floorboards, with a 5mm trowel used to fix travertine. The floor was failing before the guy finished and asked the customer not to install their washing machine as it would damage the tiles. the other floor I ripped up had too much movement in it for the pp to cope with. I know a tiler who swears by it and uses it on all his timber floors and told me he hasn't had one failure....!

 

[Stewart]

My local tile shop had a demo of it. They had used plastic ply on top of a pallet and tiled it. They then asked you to jump up and down on it to see if it failed and a lot of peeps were impressed that the tiles didn't break. I thought they were cheating as they used one of the hardest porcelain tiles and didn't grout the joints.....!

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I thimk the last thread I contributed to regarding this stuff, my reply was no blue tack for me. Nothing has changed:mad2:

 

[turnip]

got a lovely job coming up of approx 150msq very unlevel floor, literally the floorboards are out of the ark. Looks like the whole building has melted! anyway, N+C have specced plastic ply with pourable thickbed adhesive for us to build up to 30mm. They are confident that its gonna be okay, and everything installation-wise will be done by the book. Personally, I am looking forward to using this stuff, and of course, richer or poorer I will report back when the job is done and dusted.