PTS Tiling Courses - Essex Centre

[White Room]

that's basically how i got mine through them although the assessor was jason king. he was due to visit me on site but due to serious problems he couldn't make it so asked me to supply photographic evidence and hey presto........10 weeks later my certificate landed on the doormat

I had all that, not Jason though, I'll make a visit, nothing loads of photos..had to wait more than 10 weeks though

 

[Max@ableskills]

Tony is one of the NVQ assessors. You are worth £750 as a Government funded NVQ candidate. All you have to do is pose for a few staged photos and then wait for your NVQ in the post, I'm confident that my 12 year old could get her NVQ2 through them .

OMG. There should be a lot more detail than just posing for a few photos to gain your NVQ level 2. I deliver the OSAT route often and there should be a lot more to it than that. Something is not right there.

What can be possibly assessed from a few STAGED photo's?

 

[Max@ableskills]

that's basically how i got mine through them although the assessor was jason king. he was due to visit me on site but due to serious problems he couldn't make it so asked me to supply photographic evidence and hey presto........10 weeks later my certificate landed on the doormat

Hi mike

Are you saying that you got your NVQ without receiving any site visits from the assessor?

 

[Mike]

yes mate, i also had a long questionaire to fill in too. i knew most of the answers anyway as i've been tiling a long time but there was a lad local to me who came to me for help (sent by jason king) and he knew bugger all and still passed. no site assesment whatsoever.

 

[UKTT Darren]

Its ridiculous, how are they getting round the IV and EV checks who are supposed to be checking the assessor has done the correct work, sounds fraudulant to me. Makes the NVQ just a worthless piece of paper if anyone can get it by thes means

 

[Mike]

Its ridiculous, how are they getting round the IV and EV checks who are supposed to be checking the assessor has done the correct work, sounds fraudulant to me. Makes the NVQ just a worthless piece of paper if anyone can get it by thes means

well i'm not fraudulant, i just did what i was asked.

 

[White Room]

There was a post on here from a member who had a text about getting an NVQ in 2 days, can't remember who it was now.

 

[UKTT Darren]

Nobody can blame the learners for doing what they are told to do, so i certainly wasnt directing it to you mike, its the training centres responsibility to do and undertake the correct procedure that is set out by the CAA, so its the training centre and their staff thats in the wrong. Its like a driving examiner saying send me some photos of yourself in the car and heres your licence. Things should be tightened up, i had a lad turned up at my training centre once with an NVQ in tiling that he had aquired in a fast track way, he booked a course as he didnt really know how to tile, the centre he had been to had just fast tracked him to draw down the funding and make some money from the government, then on the other hand there are the people out there who deserve to have it because of their standards, this is why the qualification is getting a bad name unfortunatly

 

[Mike]

no problem darren, i understand where you're coming from. the assessor sounded a right wide boy and seemed to be just after his money for passing me. i wonder if he's still doing it now. was about 6 months ago when i 'passed' with him

 

[UKTT Darren]

The government has pulled a lot of the funding now so there will be a lot of free lance assessors out of work, last year when train to gain money was about, they couldnt get rid of the money fast enough and there was an nvq for anything including litter picking, so your lucky you got it when you did, there is still bits of money about but harder to get funded now.

 

[toptiler2010]

Jason King dosent work for them any more

 

[Oleschool]

I have had a few guys who have been on this tiling course and all seem to know what it is to be a tiler, but they do lack the experience in dealing with problems when they arise. Then again experience just means you've made your mistake lol. The course does teach them well.

 

[Oleschool]

Just really to want to bring to your attention not every case is the same, as an assessor you make a judgement call on what is both timely and cost effective as well as what evidence has already been produced.
The assessor may choose to use a varied sort of methods to assess competency's. Above all the NVQ is a competency based qualification, what i mean by saying that it does'nt prove you are a skilled tiler, but only one that knows what he or she is doing. so there is no pass par say, it would be up to the assessor to train the individual on any short comings. I've met some novice tilers and seasoned tilers. some breeze though some dont. But they all get the certificate in the end cause thats my job to achieve that

Methods of Assessment
The assessor will plan with you to choose the best method of assessing you in relation to your individual circumstances.
Assessors must ensure that they are:
• Valid
• Reliable
• Safe and manageable
• Suitable to your needs.
The main assessment methods are for these NVQs:
• Observation by an assessor of you doing something.
• Examining submitted evidence by an assessor.
• Questioning of you or a witness by an assessor.

Verification
Internal verification
The purpose of internal verification is to make sure and show that assessment is valid and consistent, through monitoring and sampling assessment decisions. Internal verifiers must agree the use of simulated activities before they take place and must sample all evidence produced through simulated activities.

Access to assessment
Assessment aims to ensure that centres allow that all candidates are given equal opportunity to demonstrate their competence for the NVQ against specified criteria.
All of the specified criteria must be met by all candidates independently
However, candidates may use mechanical, electronic and other aids in order to demonstrate competence so long as the aids are generally commercially available.

So an assessor a long with their IV make the call if you are deemed competent to the NVQ standard.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

There was a post on here from a member who had a text about getting an NVQ in 2 days, can't remember who it was now.

That was me beam, NVQ any trade, two days. A complete joke imo:mad2:

 

[Max@ableskills]

Its ridiculous, how are they getting round the IV and EV checks who are supposed to be checking the assessor has done the correct work, sounds fraudulant to me. Makes the NVQ just a worthless piece of paper if anyone can get it by thes means

I could not agree with you more darren