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I wouldnt want to be in that pm shoes this afternoon. pms are hard to find as its a difficult job to get right, so if hes performing in other areas they may keep him ,if not you may not see much more of him

glad you got it sorted, some of the best tradesmen ive known have been hot headed but they are also passionate about their trade, it often goes hand in hand

so dont be too hard on them, maybe encourage them to talk to you about things in future so you can cool things before they get to this stage
 

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Is it just me.....am I over reacting but physical violence or violent threats in my place of work would be considered gross misconduct and as such would result in summary dismissal........should that not apply here.

There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for violence in this context is there?
 
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Is it just me.....am I over reacting but physical violence or violent threats in my place of work would be considered gross misconduct and as such would result in summary dismissal........should that not apply here.

There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for violence in this context is there?

even a dismissal for gross misconduct requires the following of the statutory dismissal procedures Alan, and most employers would rather reserve judgment on the dismissal until the disciplinary hearing has been heard. Unless of course, you actually see the acts of violence first hand, then you can dismiss on the spot if your policies and precedents permit so.

not an easy position to be in from an employers point of view :thumbsdown:
 

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even a dismissal for gross misconduct requires the following of the statutory dismissal procedures Alan, and most employers would rather reserve judgment on the dismissal until the disciplinary hearing has been heard. Unless of course, you actually see the acts of violence first hand, then you can dismiss on the spot if your policies and precedents permit so.

not an easy position to be in from an employers point of view :thumbsdown:


of course GRR you are right about the investigation and disciplinary procedure to find out what happened. I know that violent conduct would result in immediate suspension for the parties concerned pending the procedure. My contract actually includes a clause that violent behaviour or threats of violence by or toward employees or visitors will not be tolerated and may result in summary removal from the workplace. I note it says removal so I guess this relates to the suspension. I bow to your greater knowledge in these procedures. I have only had to sack someone once and I did not enjoy that at all so I agree it is a horrible position to be in ..... but he did deserve it :yikes:
 
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of course GRR you are right about the investigation and disciplinary procedure to find out what happened. I know that violent conduct would result in immediate suspension for the parties concerned pending the procedure. My contract actually includes a clause that violent behaviour or threats of violence by or toward employees or visitors will not be tolerated and may result in summary removal from the workplace. I note it says removal so I guess this relates to the suspension. I bow to your greater knowledge in these procedures. I have only had to sack someone once and I did not enjoy that at all so I agree it is a horrible position to be in ..... but he did deserve it :yikes:

Alan, it's so hard to know what to do for the best in these situations. You have to think about how you handled previous situations like these, was it a first offence, could someone have been provoked causing the bad reaction and so on. You have to be so careful of setting a precedent or not treating people the same way despite having committed the same offence. bloomin minefield :mad2:

If in doubt, suspend, suspend, suspend. And then investigate and conduct a disciplinary hearing.
 

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