Retro fit ufh & Hydrogen gas causes floor failure.

[Dumbo]

Your post doesn't make sense @jcrtiling
"Priming as a blanker is that good"
what does that mean?

Type error

 

[Dumbo]

No I misunderstood your post. Who has bought products to market without testing?

So your saying they tested it but it's still going to fail

 

[Old Mod]

So your saying they tested it but it's still going to fail

I hope you've quoted the wrong post!

Everything Alan has said I agree with, I've researched this to death over the last week and I have found nothing that would make me conclude a different outcome to what has been said.
He didn't say it was going to fail, he said he didn't know the chemical composition of prime and grip and therefore couldn't comment.
And what he said about acrylic primer not being reliable, is also true.
I've read that myself in the concrete journal.
The only ones that can answer that are Mapei, that don't mean they'll tell me tho.
This is a low end product with a very highly strung installation technique.
Appears to be have been devolved with another market in mind originally, and they've tried to adapt it for tiling.
If you pick a hundred tilers that are not on a forum, how many do you think will have a successful install with this product?
How many will even bother with the installation manual?
This stuff is an accident waiting to happen.
But that's only MY opinion.

Alan has practical experience, and that's why I was hoping he may of been able to answer my questions.
we all know in the real world, that experience far exceeds the knowledge gained from reading alone.

 

[Ajax123]

So your saying they tested it but it's still going to fail

that's what I'm getting at. Who is supposed to have tested what?? which manufacturers and which products?? don't get me wrong I'm not having a go or trying to pick an argument. Just trying to work out what you are actually asking/saying

 

[Dumbo]

that's what I'm getting at. Who is supposed to have tested what?? which manufacturers and which products?? don't get me wrong I'm not having a go or trying to pick an argument. Just trying to work out what you are actually asking/saying

Sorry I just don't get it . I thought you saying with your chemistry knowledge that even following their recommendations it was still going produce gas and ultimately fail . I therefore misunderstood what you were saying .

 

[GAZ5518]

WOW!... Great post.. But trust me .. I will be giving these situations ( jobs) a wide berth..jeeees..what is happening to our lovely trade!!
So much prefer the old days... ( coming from an old fart)!!lol..
You guys that deal with these specialised jobs should most definitely charge more.. IMPO..

 

[Italy]

my fault, I was wrong trend
sorry

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[Qwerty]

Scorchio!!




Sorry about the thread hijack Marc!!

 

[Flintstone]

What about Ardex af, what does that contain and would it bond to aluminium ?

http://www.ardex.co.uk/Portals/0/productdocs/990f8eff-2e7e-4545-8c5d-84980550a662.pdf

 

[Simons70]

What about Ardex af, what does that contain and would it bond to aluminium ?

http://www.ardex.co.uk/Portals/0/productdocs/990f8eff-2e7e-4545-8c5d-84980550a662.pdf

This product is liquid,we use just for fit ditra-mat,is like the glue for vinilin.

 

[Flintstone]

Yeah, can it not be used to stick ditra over this surface safely ?

 

[J Sid]

I'm going to refrain from comment in respect of my opinion of Mapei

Yeah, can it not be used to stick ditra over this surface safely ?

I know it sticks like **** to a blanket on my trowles

 

[WetSaw]

I know it sticks like **** to a blank on my trowles

Have you been hanging around with Mr Allen?

 

[J Sid]

Have you been hanging around with Mr Allen?

I don't get time to hang around with anyone, got work to do....not a part timer

well spotted

 

[Ajax123]

This product is liquid,we use just for fit ditra-mat,is like the glue for vinilin.

Looks like we have a winner. Can't see any reason that would not stick. Not sure a primer would be needed but I'd be guided by Ardex on that