school closed...teachers strike

[DHTiling]

Strike day: What could you teach your child?


BBC News - Strike day: What could you teach your child?

 

[doug boardley]

gonna teach mine how to fill a trailer with bark mulch/chippings

 

[Stewart]

gonna teach mine how to fill a trailer with bark mulch/chippings

Lol... Been teaching my oldest the finer points of cleaning a toilet this week while her mums away.

 

[widler]

i just wish my father in law could strike when he lost a big % of his pension through bad investment on whichever pension plan he put his £1000's in over the many many years(self employed) as he is now over 65 and still has to work and take a wage to live day to day,which in turn drains the small business my wife runs which in turn is having to possibly lay employees off or take wage cuts.(my wife has taken a cut all year,if a wage at all)

in this day and age,when EVERYBODY is suffering why can't teachers/taxman/government employees(i have each one of these in my immediate family,who are all off thursday) just go with the flow,see if things pick up in years to come,things may get better.
just seems like greed to me,or plain selfishness

 

[doug boardley]

don't you always find that's it's the more caring professions (ie, teachers, nurses, etc) that always get hammered by govts? in the nicest sort of emotional blackmail way of course

 

[user123]

don't you always find that's it's the more caring professions (ie, teachers, nurses, etc) that always get hammered by govts? in the nicest sort of emotional blackmail way of course

Yep, carers, too ... mindboggling how some 'caring' charities even need to be charities at all ...

 

[One Day]

don't you always find that's it's the more caring professions (ie, teachers, nurses, etc) that always get hammered by govts? in the nicest sort of emotional blackmail way of course

Good point that Doug. Seems they always hammer the soft targets. Daren't hurt the wealthy elite and the really poor don't have anything anyway. Isn't this kind of like why the Greeks are rioting? The working/middle classes are the ones having to bear the pain there.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Good point that Doug. Seems they always hammer the soft targets. Daren't hurt the wealthy elite and the really poor don't have anything anyway. Isn't this kind of like why the Greeks are rioting? The working/middle classes are the ones having to bear the pain there.

surely these people are paying 50% tax and huge amounts of national insurance though? they don't pay the same tax and NI as the working and middle classes.

 

[doug boardley]

surely these people are paying 50% tax and huge amounts of national insurance though? they don't pay the same tax and NI as the working and middle classes.

mp's aren't on a substantial sum tho' Liz, yet they never seem to be hit by scything cuts in pensions etc,,,,case of "old school tie" at times methinks.

 

[One Day]

surely these people are paying 50% tax and huge amounts of national insurance though? they don't pay the same tax and NI as the working and middle classes.

Nope they (generally) pay far less income tax as a proportion than middle and low earners. I have used the services of a tax specialist who boasts that his top clients can quite legally pay far less tax than their cleaners. As I say, proportionally it's far far less.
If I were wealthy I would pay to avoid tax. Avoidance is quite legal.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Nope they (generally) pay far less income tax as a proportion than middle and low earners. I have used the services of a tax specialist who boasts that his top clients can quite legally pay far less tax than their cleaners. As I say, proportionally it's far far less.
If I were wealthy I would pay to avoid tax. Avoidance is quite legal.

well if it's legal, then there's nothing any of us can do about it.

personally I've accepted the fact that I will have to work well into my 70's and pay more into my personal pension plans to support my retirement years. I've even accepted that I won't get anything in the form of a state pension. they won't exist in 40 years time.

 

[One Day]

I've even accepted that I won't get anything in the form of a state pension. they won't exist in 40 years time.

Got to agree with you 100% there!
Don't you think it's more worrying though that as pension plans are investments, the current crisis could render the whole system worthless?
(World on the verge of an economic collapse says Soros « ArabianMoney)

Sorry to be a neg-head! I'm just waiting for the next chapter....

 

[user123]

well if it's legal, then there's nothing any of us can do about it.

personally I've accepted the fact that I will have to work well into my 70's and pay more into my personal pension plans to support my retirement years. I've even accepted that I won't get anything in the form of a state pension. they won't exist in 40 years time.

Me, too, Liz, I don't think it will exist then either. I just hope to keep my marbles, if you can think you can survive, if you can't, it's going to be dire. And people HAVE to stay up to date, have to learn to cope with the internet and modern communications, if they don't they will be left behind and lost big time I reckon. Luckily networks, social and otherwise, too, are forever growing, it wouldn't surprise me if interest communities would start to look after each other and themselves in the future.

 

[Colour Republic]

Sod 'em!

Today I find out it's going to cost me money and create another logistical nightmare at a time when i'm already juggling. The worst part is I don't even have kids!

 

[widler]

some good posts here,everyone is right on the points they make,we,as the working class do get hit hard.i do feel sorry for these people in a way.
BUT,my family who work as teachers/pension/tax,get good wages,great bloody hours,great holidays ect
who were at a family bbq the other week were more or less bragging about having a day off,and about why should they take a pay/pension cut ect. my father in law was ready to kill his son,and teachers who i know well are doing the same,they aint striking,they are just sponging a day at our expense for sheer greed or selfishness.:incazzato:

 

[Mike]

and there was no need for anyone to strike today as negotiations are still ongoing, most of them just want a day off. my wife's a civil servant (job centre) and the staff have been told only 2 people are allowed to picket. there's 200 staff working there!