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John Benton

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Lol I heard it was hard course! Had them in about 12months ago there set up is a bit mad! IMO and there guarantee is only applicable if you are a trained applicator. Tried there meta cream stuff though and didn't like it.

What didn't you like about the Metcreme Tony?
 

John Benton

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Great Dave, I have used Drytreat on every type of tile, from polished porcelain to geometrics it is the muts nuts imo, not taking anything away from other sealers though, I rate LTP, Lithofin HG etc also.

It's great in the fact that the product actually penetrates to approx. 6-7mm into the therefore it doesn't need re-treating, but by the same token you are potentially taking regular maintenance work away from yourself.
 

Sean Kelly

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Tony, I've been using Seal Guard for a few months. It stinks the house out and I'm surprised that it hasn't knocked me out yet! It does dry very quickly and it can be used on damp grout (i.e. seal 20mins after grouting) - That has to be a great selling point? Cheers Sean
 

John Benton

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Tony, I've been using Seal Guard for a few months. It stinks the house out and I'm surprised that it hasn't knocked me out yet! It does dry very quickly and it can be used on damp grout (i.e. seal 20mins after grouting) - That has to be a great selling point? Cheers Sean

I've used that before and it's a spray can. Doesn't leave any residue on tiles either when spraying grout joints. Good as you can use on damp grout as well
 
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Lol I heard it was hard course! Had them in about 12months ago there set up is a bit mad! IMO and there guarantee is only applicable if you are a trained applicator. Tried there meta cream stuff though and didn't like it.


I have not used their sealers tony, so interesting comment, what didn't you like about . ?.. always good to hear other views.
 

John Benton

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What do you think the benefits are of penetrating that deep.? As for the meta cream from memory I just found the application of it strange the gel like substance, then having to clean the gel off. You will have to correct me if I'm mixing up and getting it confused with the wrong product.

You're right Tony. What it does through chemical reaction is move through all the open pores over a period of about 4 weeks before it has completed it's full process. Therefore even if you 'wear' say the top 0.5mm of a natural stone tile the product has penetrated deeper than the wear itself, and is still protecting the tile from any stain.

There is a good diagram of the process, link below

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As I said earlier though you are potentially doing yourself out of regular maintenance on customers floors
 
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A pretty standard diagram of how the molecules penetrate and water/solvent evaporates. Still can't see much benefit of it penetrating that deep though. As for wearing a surface down that is a big ask IMO especially 0.5mm most preminum sealers will penetrate 2mm so the only wear you would get like that is to cut the stone/grind. So anyway say if the first 1mm of the sealer has been effected and damaged the surface the rest of the sealer in this case up to 6mm is now in my view pointless as the damage has now been done to the surface. The only way I can think that it could be of advantage is, as a pre-seal for grouting to stop potential colour bleed from the grout entering the stone creating picture framing effect, but even then for its full effectiveness waiting 4 weeks until grouting!.
 

John Benton

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A pretty standard diagram of how the molecules penetrate and water/solvent evaporates. Still can't see much benefit of it penetrating that deep though. As for wearing a surface down that is a big ask IMO especially 0.5mm most preminum sealers will penetrate 2mm so the only wear you would get like that is to cut the stone/grind. So anyway say if the first 1mm of the sealer has been effected and damaged the surface the rest of the sealer in this case up to 6mm is now in my view pointless as the damage has now been done to the surface. The only way I can think that it could be of advantage is, as a pre-seal for grouting to stop potential colour bleed from the grout entering the stone creating picture framing effect, but even then for its full effectiveness waiting 4 weeks until grouting!.

Not quite sure what you mean Tony
 

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