Square meter price

[Perry]

LOL, you got the wrong guys then Lynn, I take a break IF and when I can, that's regardless of day rates or price work, I just graft rrr: :lol:

And when I say a break, apart from a bite to eat, any drink is drank working, if site rules allow.

you never have break because you never make the tea

 

[Alan.P]

you never have break because you never make the tea

What do you think we take you along for, the ride ??? rrr:

 

[Alan.P]

Interesting thread I fined it amusing that people think they can get more money on day rate than price per m2. What is the average day rate £140.00 - £180.00 ????

Depends on the day rate and the tiles to be fixed and where I suppose, and knowing your speed / limitations ?

 

[Perry]

What do you think we take you along for, the ride ??? rrr:

i did wonder

 

[Peter]

Average day rate in NI is about £120 and average price per metre is about £12-14 hence why us boys have to work a bit faster. :lol:

 

[The D]

Average day rate in NI is about £120 and average price per metre is about £12-14 hence why us boys have to work a bit faster. :lol:

is that domestic or site ??

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

well i nearly always do price work ,as thats the way i 'am used to working ,But have just taken a day- work job on , and the fellers i'am working with keep wanting to slow me down,and saying calm down we are only on day-work,which i'am finding a real battle to do as i'am so used to getting cracking ,it's a bit of a rip-off if you ask me as we end-up taking much longer to do the job, just to make sure we all get payed more lol.

 

[The D]

The things that I charge a day rate for. Any thing that comes under sub-straight preparation
laying under floor heating.
Laying ditra mat.
Laying SLC.
Stripping tiles.
Re boarding.
Making boxing.

Then I have my set price per m2
£x for ceramics
£x for porcelain
£x for mosaics
£x for stone
£x for large format ceramics
£x for large format porcelain
£x for large format stone
The price I put on a day rate has no resemblance to what I can make in a day on my m2 price
My day rate is there for the things that I do not consider quantifiable and is the minimum I will work for
Per day. I can spend 2 days on prep for a 20m2 floor and only make £280.00 but then I can fix the tiles in 1 day and get £500.00. When I am fixing tiles you are not paying for my time.

 

[swanman]

I would give it up mate

Its not worth killing yourself

THE FIRST WEALTH IS HEALTH

 

[beanz]

well i nearly always do price work ,as thats the way i 'am used to working ,But have just taken a day- work job on , and the fellers i'am working with keep wanting to slow me down,and saying calm down we are only on day-work,which i'am finding a real battle to do as i'am so used to getting cracking ,it's a bit of a rip-off if you ask me as we end-up taking much longer to do the job, just to make sure we all get payed more lol.

Only problem with that day rate mentality, is you may not get the call next time, so in the long run, you're losing money, not making more... People have an idea of how much a job is going to cost, and if you're dragging your feet, that price will shoot up very quickly.

 

[Peter]

is that domestic or site ??

Domestic sadly. Don't know any local tiler who gets more than 15 a metre for non stone tiling. Sites are £10-12 at the most. Most tilers fixing stone at less than 20 quid a metre. Although in saying that you can still make reasonable money on the right job.

 

[beanz]

Domestic sadly. Don't know any local tiler who gets more than 15 a metre for non stone tiling. Sites are £10-12 at the most. Most tilers fixing stone at less than 20 quid a metre. Although in saying that you can still make reasonable money on the right job.

WOW! The speed i tile, i'd be paying them.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

The guy i'am doing the day rate job for insists that if he employs peeps to work for him would rather have the job done to the Book and very -well, as a- posed to them rushing the work to get payed, anyway he just would not entertain a price ,hence me working on that job for a very good day rate ! but my other jobs are all on price

 

[Pebbs]

I've just turned down a few weeks work in London as it's all day rate. There is some serious meterage to be done too. I think it's taking the you know what expecting people to lay big floors on day work, the main contractor would be making a fortune off the back of it!

Wherever possible, I don't pay day rates, what is the point? I want the job turned around as quick as possible...time is money! Put the men on price, and you haven't got to be nagging them all day long to get a move on. Its a ridiculous notion to put men on day rates laying a big floor, dont these contractors have a programme to meet? Pete you say the contractors will be making a fortune of the back of those contracts, but not if they have penalty clauses when they run over their programme.

Obviously if its tricky stuff, then it has to be done on day works, its just common sense. I always sit down with the lads once a month get the drawings out for anything on tender, (only the contracts we are really targetting, the rest Im not so concerned about) Then we have a heated debate about prices, and come to some agreement. But there are times (like at the moment) when we are on a nightmare contract, the rates are rubbish, the site is pants, but we just have to keep our heads down and mouths shut, because its winter and we are warm indoors, and no one is sitting at home. A couple of the new ones have moaned about the rates, but the answer is this, if your not happy go and sit at home and wait for the phone to ring. Jan, Feb and March, are always slow.

Lynn

 

[peteablard]

Wherever possible, I don't pay day rates, what is the point? I want the job turned around as quick as possible...time is money! Put the men on price, and you haven't got to be nagging them all day long to get a move on. Its a ridiculous notion to put men on day rates laying a big floor, dont these contractors have a programme to meet? Pete you say the contractors will be making a fortune of the back of those contracts, but not if they have penalty clauses when they run over their programme.

Obviously if its tricky stuff, then it has to be done on day works, its just common sense. I always sit down with the lads once a month get the drawings out for anything on tender, (only the contracts we are really targetting, the rest Im not so concerned about) Then we have a heated debate about prices, and come to some agreement. But there are times (like at the moment) when we are on a nightmare contract, the rates are rubbish, the site is pants, but we just have to keep our heads down and mouths shut, because its winter and we are warm indoors, and no one is sitting at home. A couple of the new ones have moaned about the rates, but the answer is this, if your not happy go and sit at home and wait for the phone to ring. Jan, Feb and March, are always slow.

Lynn

absolutely! I don't know much about the job I mentioned Lynn but I got the feeling that there was no sense of urgency. I think I'd just rather work for a low price than day rate as 99% of the time I'd still be better off.

 

[Spud]

Interesting thread I fined it amusing that people think they can get more money on day rate than price per m2. What is the average day rate £140.00 - £180.00 ????

not in london Deano its less than that for a subbie ,you can make that if you are doing your own work direct to builders

 

[Jeff the tiler]

Hey just want to check this thread is not out there for all to see. There are prices being quoted that I feel should not be. Is this purely viewed by arms members

 

[Gazzer]

Hey just want to check this thread is not out there for all to see. There are prices being quoted that I feel should not be. Is this purely viewed by arms members

Well thats why its in the arms