The recession,i believe its been orchestrated

[fipple]

Ive got no energy to convince anyone of this,but just wondered if it appears to others that its become very convieniant for the governments to use this condition we find ourselves in to gain maximum control ,giving them carte blance to pry deeply into each and everything you/we do...infact i,ll go as far to say that i know it is..

 

[suave]

corrupt comes to mind

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I've got nothing to hide - but is that the last Labour Government who lost the election because of their orchestration you are referring to, or the the new Coalition Government who have the chance to help all us hard working people!
For me the sooner they cut out all the waste the better.
Would this be the same Government that you are now asking to support you.
Sounds a bit like biting the hand that .........:smilewinkgrin:

 

[doug boardley]

old saying.. "when the going gets tough, the tough get going":8:

 

[mikethetile]

your not wrong there Doug

I think people become more carefull how they spend their money and take more time to look for proper tradesmen

 

[fipple]

let me clarify my point...im talking about a much broader view here...we know the issues about work...and timeless john,im not sure what your hankering about...im talking about absolute control over each and every action you do...its not about what u have to hide ,its about no being able/allowed to make your own minds up as to how u live your lives...trust me on this...is not far off...the sad thing is a majority of people will join in the propaganda under there self righteous believe that they are part of a better way of living and feel fully justified in there bullying of the common man...I f your talking about stream lining waste timeless john...would u like for me to come round your house and slap a fine on you cause your emitting far to much waste from your house .make you pay for it to become cost effective and not such a drain on the system...come and check how much food you buy and eat each week and see whether it actually invalidates your insurance because with your condition you really shouldnt be eating so many fats....Do you really need to fly twice abriad on holidays this year...you may be fined due to the fact that youve used up your personal quota of air mile allowance this year...This is the senario i was trying to get us to debate notthe usual senseless..(OH WHAT great tilers we are...smite the cowboys cowboys cowboys...lets smite them:lol:...such a drain..
Timeless!..did i say i asked for them to support me?..there job is to handle the revenues which we all pay through hard earned cash...they are there to serve you john...they are public servants...for some one whos timeless...you havent learnt much

 

[Time's Ran Out]

let me clarify my point...im talking about a much broader view here...we know the issues about work...and timeless john,im not sure what your hankering about...im talking about absolute control over each and every action you do...its not about what u have to hide ,its about no being able/allowed to make your own minds up as to how u live your lives...trust me on this...is not far off...the sad thing is a majority of people will join in the propaganda under there self righteous believe that they are part of a better way of living and feel fully justified in there bullying of the common man...I f your talking about stream lining waste timeless john...would u like for me to come round your house and slap a fine on you cause your emitting far to much waste from your house .make you pay for it to become cost effective and not such a drain on the system...come and check how much food you buy and eat each week and see whether it actually invalidates your insurance because with your condition you really shouldnt be eating so many fats....Do you really need to fly twice abriad on holidays this year...you may be fined due to the fact that youve used up your personal quota of air mile allowance this year...This is the senario i was trying to get us to debate notthe usual senseless..(OH WHAT great tilers we are...smite the cowboys cowboys cowboys...lets smite them:lol:...such a drain..
Timeless!..did i say i asked for them to support me?..there job is to handle the revenues which we all pay through hard earned cash...they are there to serve you john...they are public servants...for some one whos timeless...you havent learnt much

And why should that be to pay for people who don't work?
Debate it all you want mate - I read 1984 when it was first published (not the film) but as with most discussions there is always one side that will submit a rhetorical question without any interest in an alternative view.
If you do wish to make it personal, I wouldn't have thought an open forum was the appropriate place!

 

[Andy Allen]

in what way do you mean pry into everythink we do ?

are you refering to the dole scroungers that have no intension of finding a job.

or the man on a disability allowence reffing a football match on the weekend.

if so then i say carry on prying

 

[paulyoung666]

If you do wish to make it personal, I wouldn't have thought an open forum was the appropriate place!

agreed , seems rather creepy and weird this , :ban:

 

[diamondtiling]

let me clarify my point...im talking about a much broader view here...we know the issues about work...and timeless john,im not sure what your hankering about...im talking about absolute control over each and every action you do...its not about what u have to hide ,its about no being able/allowed to make your own minds up as to how u live your lives...trust me on this...is not far off...the sad thing is a majority of people will join in the propaganda under there self righteous believe that they are part of a better way of living and feel fully justified in there bullying of the common man...I f your talking about stream lining waste timeless john...would u like for me to come round your house and slap a fine on you cause your emitting far to much waste from your house .make you pay for it to become cost effective and not such a drain on the system...come and check how much food you buy and eat each week and see whether it actually invalidates your insurance because with your condition you really shouldnt be eating so many fats....Do you really need to fly twice abriad on holidays this year...you may be fined due to the fact that youve used up your personal quota of air mile allowance this year...This is the senario i was trying to get us to debate notthe usual senseless..(OH WHAT great tilers we are...smite the cowboys cowboys cowboys...lets smite them:lol:...such a drain..
Timeless!..did i say i asked for them to support me?..there job is to handle the revenues which we all pay through hard earned cash...they are there to serve you john...they are public servants...for some one whos timeless...you havent learnt much

:reindeer::reindeer:

 

[davy_G]

The man who cant work needs all the help he can get.

The man who wont work should get no help. Nothing. Im sick of paying for him to live for free.

Im never happy with my lot and work harder and longer to improve it. Its in my hands as they say.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

And why should that be to pay for people who don't work?
Debate it all you want mate - I read 1984 when it was first published (not the film) but as with most discussions there is always one side that will submit a rhetorical question without any interest in an alternative view.
If you do wish to make it personal, I wouldn't have thought an open forum was the appropriate place!

In my haste to reply this should have read wasn't:lol:

 

[Colour Republic]

In my haste to reply this should have read wasn't:lol:

you sure about that John? I think you were right the first time

 

[fipple]

Im talking generally...not about work but civil libertys...and y pual is greeped out im not sure...:lol:...its all over the news if u watch it...And johnny boy...ive also read eric blairs book 1984 ...u personalised it by somehow stating i was i was apparently biting the hand that fed..:lol:...i was asking has anyone noticed the instrusive nature the governments are having..ie carbon taxes/enviroment ...i guess when its spelt out more clearly or when its right up in your face..maybe then youll see it..i despise the collective ignorance of groups,and cowardise stems from that whole mentality..and allows those with bad intentions to get away with what they will because they know the general masses are fools in there eyes..and through there self righteousness play a major roll in there own downfalls...allowing the elites to carry on as normal and seem like the saviours because you havent a mind of your own...luckily i know others with much credibility see events unfolding...i guess it was to much to ask on a tileforum site to help you see past the next wage/job...you see elites rely on you being distracted...u may have read eric blairs book john,but im sure if you read steven hawkins im sure youd come out none the wiser..:lol:

 

[paulyoung666]

i reckon it aint just me thats creeped out :smilewinkgrin: