Tile on Tile? why we don't

[mikethetile]

my advice to you gizzy is ........................

put your hard hat on LOL

 

[diamondtiling]

am telling you long as the walls are stable, solid and you check it wont come out by the door frame tile on tile will be ok tilers dont want to tile on tile as it slips more and they cant handle it and use the oldest trick in the book health and safety
peace out

Well thats just made my day gizzy, all these years and I must have been getting it wrong all the time. The amount of wasted days I have spent removing tiles and prepping walls to get them to a suitable standard and all the time I should have rang you?
What a stupid tiler I must be, all those wages I could have saved to my lads and my customers. Thanks gizzy for that sound advice.

 

[Stewart]

am telling you long as the walls are stable, solid and you check it wont come out by the door frame tile on tile will be ok tilers dont want to tile on tile as it slips more and they cant handle it and use the oldest trick in the book health and safety
peace out

23 years in tiling......... and I've never heard such rubbish!!

 

[faithhealer]

So Gizzy, going back to post No 1, how was I to know the plasterboard was loose without removing the tiles?

 

[aph257]

or that the original tiles were on wallpaper, PVA or even another layer of tiles.

 

[Alberta Stone]

God only knows what you will find when you pull old tiles off a wall or floor.
I have been amazed many times by the sheer rubbish I have found behind the surface.
It is kind of like the saying about capitalism
It wears a clean suit yet has dirty underpants.

 

[Rob Z]

We did a demo years ago, long before I had a digital camera (I wish I had pics of that shower!). That thing was white body 4 1/4's set with mastic over vinyl wallpaper!

More often than not, we do the demo and find plenty of reason to support the fact that we elected to do the demo!

 

[faithhealer]

I stripped a shower room once to find every tile was stuck on with silicon!

 

[steveb]

i suppose they thought that would make it waterproof.

 

[Deleted member 1779]

In an example below the kitchen wall had been tiled, over tile over tile.
Room getting smaller... Time to get the demo hammer out !

Far too many layers on this onion !

Going Going...

Gone!

And thats the wall back to the basics...

Not only is the brickwork exposed but so are some previously hidden service pipes and wires
making identification easier.

After an hours work its TIME FOR A CUP OF TEEEEE

Most clients will expect some level of ripping out of a room to be included.
And time wise a small room shouldn't take more than a day to get back to the basic structure.

 

[Alberta Stone]

I suppose if there were enough layers of tile built up it could become structural {sarcasm}

 

[gizzy2007]

people are just being daft about it now where did you all serve your time on a 3 week tiling course lol mine was with the best in scotland tofflo jackson so they must have been doing things wrong for 40 years lol ok then

 

[Deleted member 9966]

people are just being daft about it now where did you all serve your time on a 3 week tiling course lol mine was with the best in scotland tofflo jackson so they must have been doing things wrong for 40 years lol ok then

the majority of our members on here are both time served/apprentice and tiling course entrants to the industry. the notion that tiling on to existing tiles is not a scare story told by tiling training centres, but is a frequent observation of experienced tilers who come across situations where 2-3 layers of tiles are stuck to wallpaper for example.

In the current day and age of health and safety, risk assessments and understanding the correct preparation methods, many tilers will not carry out work unless they are convinced that the substrate will hold. It does not matter whether these tilers are tiling course graduate or time served. People make a judgement call and most of the guys on here will not tile on tile and that is their view.

Gizzy please carry on with your tiling methods if they work for you. We are merely trying to point out that unless you know the substrate to be absolutely sound, tiling on top of tiled walls is not the done thing anymore.

I shall now close this thread as I believe everybody has had their chance to speak and do not think any further new comments can be added to this debate.