Vicky Geometric

[DHTiling]

Trev....

I know you have had some stick over the setting out etc......but we do not tolerate abusing another member verbaly.....i deleted the swearing from your post and would appreciate you voice your opinions without bieng insulting/swearing...........

thanks....

 

[andy-p]

well said trev, nobody likes getting their work criticised and im sure most of it was well intentioned ..

 

[trev]

Trev....

I know you have had some stick over the setting out etc......but we do not tolerate abusing another member verbaly.....i deleted the swearing from your post and would appreciate you voice your opinions without bieng insulting/swearing...........

thanks....

thanks dave, won't happen again:flowers:

sorry mate

 

[kilty55]

hi all,i spoke to ant from edinburgh today regarding prices/dates for the victorian course which starts in january and you can contact him dirtect via the link for tiler training school on this website,cheers

 

[frankenfurter]

Hello Trev,
Did you learn your Victorian tiling on a course or self taught?
I learnt mine through an apprenticeship many moons ago, period tiling is all I do now both wall and floor - I shudder at the thought of large format things. Most of our work is restoration work where we hand cut every tile from larger tiles, it's the only way to get decent matches to imperial sizing.
You can usually work out a floor purely based on maths, when you get used to it, it's pretty easy. I used to do them on graph paper years ago, now any old notepad will do. But try getting a look at some of the old floors and look how they overcome certain problems and obstacles, sometimes it's easier to figure out when you see how someone else set it down.
You'll also see that centring of borders is not as important as flow. If everything is square and straight and your design flows, being centred becomes less important.
Frank

 

[White Room]

Just read my signature, We've all been there

 

[trev]

Hello Trev,
Did you learn your Victorian tiling on a course or self taught?
I learnt mine through an apprenticeship many moons ago, period tiling is all I do now both wall and floor - I shudder at the thought of large format things. Most of our work is restoration work where we hand cut every tile from larger tiles, it's the only way to get decent matches to imperial sizing.
You can usually work out a floor purely based on maths, when you get used to it, it's pretty easy. I used to do them on graph paper years ago, now any old notepad will do. But try getting a look at some of the old floors and look how they overcome certain problems and obstacles, sometimes it's easier to figure out when you see how someone else set it down.
You'll also see that centring of borders is not as important as flow. If everything is square and straight and your design flows, being centred becomes less important.
Frank

Thanks for that frank. Bit of both really, done some with a company and helped out guys then i did a 1 week course at PTS Harlow. the 'original' one i did was my first big one on my own so i suppose i was a bit protective over it. I put in the rope edging and had to use nosing bars for the three steps which i had not done before. what a learning curve that job was!!(in more ways than one).
Would it be ok, if when i get a spare day, to come along and labour for you for a day? No pay just to see what you do. That is of course you are not a milliion miles away!!:lol:
PM me with your details if poss. thanks very much

Trev

 

[Spud]

Thanks for that frank. Bit of both really, done some with a company and helped out guys then i did a 1 week course at PTS Harlow. the 'original' one i did was my first big one on my own so i suppose i was a bit protective over it. I put in the rope edging and had to use nosing bars for the three steps which i had not done before. what a learning curve that job was!!(in more ways than one).
Would it be ok, if when i get a spare day, to come along and labour for you for a day? No pay just to see what you do. That is of course you are not a milliion miles away!!:lol:
PM me with your details if poss. thanks very much

Trev

trev you have alot of ability you dont need to work for free if this is the road you wish to go down then just open your eyes there are so many good examples all over the paths and hall ways of london good luck

 

[pjtiler]

it takes a big man to admite a misteak bud
top man
any help i can give to sort out your setting out ill be only to pleased
as for the lads who would like to learn the art (and it is an art ) of
ceometric borders
sod paying good money to some dodgy sclool
there enough old farts on here to set you on the right road
once you forget there tiles and look at the numbers its easy
fiddley none the less but easy
you could start by cutting you own design
remember even number modules 2"x 2" for a start

 

[The D]

it takes a big man to admite a misteak bud
top man
any help i can give to sort out your setting out ill be only to pleased
as for the lads who would like to learn the art (and it is an art ) of
ceometric borders
sod paying good money to some dodgy sclool
there enough old farts on here to set you on the right road
once you forget there tiles and look at the numbers its easy
fiddley none the less but easy
you could start by cutting you own design
remember even number modules 2"x 2" for a start

PJ you old softy:lol:

 

[pjtiler]

PJ you old softy:lol:

your the old fart i was referring to
i hope your up to speed with your maths
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[The D]

:whatchutalkingabout

 

[brian c]

good thread and i have enjoyed the banter,well done trev for admitting your mistake,happens to us all once in a while.

 

[james]

never done any geometric work so how do you go about setting it out, think i might phone scotland about their geo course as i found PTS to be a waste of time and money.

 

[kilty55]

good bunch of lads in edinburgh,well worth a bell mate

 

[pjtiler]

you don't need to spend your money on a course mate
its easy as long as you work out your Moguls 2" 4" 6" 8"
its all about the maths
get our self some graph paper

 

[james]

pj i dont know if i had to start with the border and then fill the centre or centre first. fine laying out normally, large format etc just never come across this work while labouring or on pts course (learnt more labouring, so pj id rather go the graph paper route, buy som tiles practise, practise some more)

 

[pjtiler]

pj i dont know if i had to start with the border and then fill the centre or centre first. fine laying out normally, large format etc just never come across this work while labouring or on pts course (learnt more labouring, so pj id rather go the graph paper route, buy som tiles practise, practise some more)

it doesn't really mater if you fix the border 1st or last as long as you work to your lines

 

[james]

so just measure out require distance from the walls, snap chalk lines.
find the centre of main area, snap lines and just make sure its equal cuts.
does this sound right pj.

 

[kilty55]

i dont feel its a waste of money doing a short course on something tricky like this,although everyones advice on here is excellent its important to have a go hands on before doing a fully paid job for a customer and making an erse of it,just my opinion

 

[pjtiler]

so just measure out require distance from the walls, snap chalk lines.
find the centre of main area, snap lines and just make sure its equal cuts.
does this sound right pj.

you have to set out 1st to the full tile Patten,you never cut in to the border
make sure theres enough room to put the field tile in equally on all sides thought

 

[james]

kilty i wasnt referring to the course your been on but i can say more often than most courses have been a let down that ive done.
some have been too basic yet claiming otherwise. some have been overpriced and understaffed.
ive done 2 courses that were head and shoulders above other courses ive done and were fantastic value.

 

[kilty55]

hi james,i wasnt having a go mate,sorry if it came across like that,long story short im course trained so i can only give my opinion on what ive experienced,however my last trade i was a qualified apprentice trained chef so i do understand what its like to go through an apprenticeship for 4 years.however as i ve learned over the years nvq/svq mean very little to be honest and i think people should be merited on how good they perform personally as i worked with plenty chefs that were not qualified but would have wiped the floor with the guys who were apprentice trained,the same goes for any trade as far as im concerned,,what im trying to say mate is personally i think its important in a hands on job to have some actual hands on experience working at something as oppose to going in blind and a nervous so to speak,theres tonnes of good lads on here that can give advice in many ways but at the end of the day tiling is a hands on job and i feel confidence can be the difference in a poor or good job being produced especially something finniky like vicky floors mate,hope this helps

 

[kilty55]

what drunken 4am shenanaigins was i writing last night,phew wasnt too bad hahah

 

[The D]

Here is one I started on Friday

 

[GazTech]

Hear is one I started on Friday

Looks smart Deano, will you please post more detailed photos ie the corners turning at 90% etc when you have finished, as an example to all who have seen this thread ....Gaz

 

[pjtiler]

Hear is one I started on Friday

you need to take a course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
















































in photography

 

[Gazzer]

you need to take a course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
in photography

and spelling :lol:

 

[The D]

no prob

 

[kilty55]

looks good deanotile!!!! thanks for posting the pics mate,im still looking forward to doing a course on this asap,have you done many floors like this deano or is this your 1st one mate/?

 

[The D]

For some reason I can’t put the rest of the pic on but they are on my gallery