What is the hardest tile you have came across to cut?

[Blunt Tool]

Know that one!

Take it you haven't had the best of days either! I tidied up after I got that walls tiled only for the van not to start and flat battery! Pissing of rain and after a trip to get a new one soaked and hands black, sitting sulking now!!

 

[Old Mod]

Take it you haven't had the best of days either!

Well let's just say this job is presenting me with a whole new load of challenges.
Don't want to say much, it'll spoil the laughter at the end! Haha

Oh dear, got to say I do empathise.

It seems to be catching then.
I know of at least 5 guys on different jobs today all having a day from hell!

 

[Bill]

BM2's with a tungsten chisel.

 

[One Day]

Hardest has been a full bodied porcelain from Royal Mosa. They weighed about twice what a normal tile weighs. Sigma needed a great whack to split them.
Most difficult was a glass-glazed, cushion-edged 90x90 floor tile from Fanal.
Nothing, but nothing would cut them cleanly.

Why do tile manufacturers make tiles without any consideration for cutting them???
It's happening more and more.

 

[Old Mod]

Why do tile manufacturers make tiles without any consideration for cutting them???
It's happening more and more.

Why should they......they don't work with them!

 

[One Day]

Why should they......they don't work with them!

There will be a cumulative effect as tilers like me and you begin to steer customers away from certain brands, and other tilers make a complete hash of installing them.
Short sightedness from the manufacturers.

 

[Andy Allen]

I was led to believe tiles that stray off the scribe line or are brittle are over fired.
Would this not mean there faulty ? and not fit for purpose .....
Maybe we should refuse to fit them till the manufacture can get there act together !!

 

[Italy]

I want to make the white fly ... .
I think differently, the big sizes, they involve cooking and pressing
Different, and therefore are harder to cut. (Otherwise, they all come crashing)
many smaller rectified sizes, still come from large formats.
Example 30x60, is often a cut 120x120 tile.

Unfortunately, the technology to run and tiler must follow.

I happened a couple of times, unable to make cuts.
but they have paid compensation, because they have admitted the mistake.

If a tile, do not cut with a grinder and
A good blade, you have to call the dealer or the company
producer. because, no cutter succeed.

ps. For good blade, I mean GOOD BLADE. (For the deaf)

Now do not scold me.

 

[Italy]

Funny enough we had a guy in yesterday who makes bullet proof vests and he was looking to cut some 10mm bullet proof ceramic (genuinely).

No diamond blade would touch it, it just bounced off the side of this ceramic plate.

After that we thought we had no chance, but i had my Sigma 3C3M in the shop so we had a go, and it did it!!! So now we can safely say that Sigma's can cut bullet proof materials

Pretty useless info i know, but it was something a bit different.

Sam

A few years ago, I saw a documentary about the war.
Said that in the tanks, the walls contain porcelain tiles.
I do not remember the thickness, but I remember that they are in multiple layers.

 

[Blunt Tool]

Think Pastorelli porcelain have the contract for the nose tiles of the new space shuttle, NASA hoping there is no cuts ( and no dot dabbers)

 

[Tile Shop]

Vitra Pro Metro 20mm We've had a sample in ahead of taking into stock next month. Documenting a cutting and fixing guide. The fixing bit I have nailed, but cutting....... I started with our Battipav Supreme, no problem. Rubi ND200 with viper blade. Took some balancing but got there eventually. Now slowly working down the range of cutters I have at my disposal. The Rubi TX wouldn't touch it. I could actually see the tile laughing at me! Going to bring my Monti and grinder in tomorrow to see what the best method will be.

Anyone else had experience? @antonio , didn't you do a 20mm porcelain job a few months ago?

 

[Italy]

Think Pastorelli porcelain have the contract for the nose tiles of the new space shuttle, NASA hoping there is no cuts ( and no dot dabbers)

Do you know what it means in Italian, pastorelli?

 

[Blunt Tool]

Do you know what it means in Italian, pastorelli?

Hard as ****?

 

[Blunt Tool]

Shepherd

 

[Italy]

Vitra Pro Metro 20mm We've had a sample in ahead of taking into stock next month. Documenting a cutting and fixing guide. The fixing bit I have nailed, but cutting....... I started with our Battipav Supreme, no problem. Rubi ND200 with viper blade. Took some balancing but got there eventually. Now slowly working down the range of cutters I have at my disposal. The Rubi TX wouldn't touch it. I could actually see the tile laughing at me! Going to bring my Monti and grinder in tomorrow to see what the best method will be.

Anyone else had experience? @antonio , didn't you do a 20mm porcelain job a few months ago?

viper, is no good for 20mm.
You need a blade, which downloads quickly, debris.
Otherwise it will heat up. I can only tell you what he told me montoit.
size?

 

[Italy]

Shepherd

yes, little shepherd

 

[Blunt Tool]

yes, little shepherd

Should have stuck to his sheep and not made tiles no one can cut!

 

[Italy]

Should have stuck to his sheep and not made tiles no one can cut!

Do not complain !!!
Change the cutter !!!

 

[Blunt Tool]

Do not complain !!!
Change the cutter !!!

What change from Sigma?

 

[Blunt Tool]

All walls tiled now anyway just floor to do tomorrow

 

[Italy]

What model do you use?
How many years to?
Wheel, how long?

 

[Tile Shop]

viper, is no good for 20mm.
You need a blade, which downloads quickly, debris.
Otherwise it will heat up. I can only tell you what he told me montoit.
size?

ND 200 so 200mm blade...... 600x600x20mm tile. It worked and it was fairly neat. but did struggle.... took a good few minutes but didn't count how many. The battipav I did in 3-4 passes with the Battipav 300 fast-cut [serrated] wheel.

 

[Blunt Tool]

3bm only last year, blade 2 months and new one in yesterday

 

[Italy]

3bm only last year, blade 2 months and new one in yesterday

Max handle?
Is too small for those tiles.
you need more strength engraving.
At least 75cm, with max or klick klock.
Take the grinder, faster.

 

[Italy]

ND 200 so 200mm blade...... 600x600x20mm tile. It worked and it was fairly neat. but did struggle.... took a good few minutes but didn't count how many. The battipav I did in 3-4 passes with the Battipav 300 fast-cut [serrated] wheel.

Some cuts, I used sigma 100cm.
(The easier ones).
The rest, with montolit tcs 115, clean cuts.
Or montolit txn 115, faster, but not clean cuts.
I posed, 40x100x 20mm, I think .... ahaha
I do not remember anymore.