What is your preferred method?

[Old Mod]

I’m not looking for a fight I promise.

I appreciate there is more than one solution, I use them myself all the time.
I’m not always comfortable tho, and of course I know budget can play it’s inevitable part, but I do struggle to get my head around a perfect solution getting ditched in favour of not only inferior products being used and a single part system being ditched for a two part solution.
#yagitme!

 

[Blunt Tool]

99 out of 100 times it’s an existing or old chipboard floor to start with and price dictates how I deal with it. The 1 time out of 100 I could have used tg cement board I thought it was obselete here until I was enlightened tonight! I saw the light, praise the board!

 

[Waluigi]

I’ll consider it for my next project but I doubt I’ll get further than the consideration. If it means I’ve got to travel somewhere quite far away to pick up 4 x £50 boards and 3 x £6 tubes of adhesive, I doubt I’ll do it.

If it’s in a local merchants and I weigh things up and it seems a viable option then I’ll go for it.

There must be a reason why it hasn’t taken off and I think I’ve just done my best to explain it.

 

[Old Mod]

Maybe I don’t know enough about it

I think one problem is that it’s viewed in the same way as their 6mm board, it’s nothing like it.

Firstly it’s structural.

Secondly it’s Tongue and grooved.

In perfect honesty, I’d go for GIFA board over No more ply, but is certainly go for the no more ply over everything else, if I had complete choice.
That’s all I’m really getting at.
Yes there are always extenuating circumstances for which ever course of action we take, but that notwithstanding, I’d still go for an inert structural board.

 

[Waluigi]

You’d Gifa GIFA Board?

I’ll have a look into that one. Thanks.

I’m not adverse to looking into different methods but sometimes these things need a proper push by the manufacturers/suppliers.

 

[Old Mod]

I’ll consider it for my next project but I doubt I’ll get further than the consideration. If it means I’ve got to travel somewhere quite far away to pick up 4 x £50 boards and 3 x £6 tubes of adhesive, I doubt I’ll do it.

If it’s in a local merchants and I weigh things up and it seems a viable option then I’ll go for it.

There must be a reason why it hasn’t taken off and I think I’ve just done my best to explain it.

This is no different a scenario than Schluter in my opinion, everyone knows is typically a good product, but availability and cost can make it prohibitive.

In fairness I have to assess situations slightly differently these days, and I’m judging it on my own experiences, which isn’t particularly fair I suppose, so I’ll just leave now, and keep my nose out.

 

[Blunt Tool]

Kinda on the same subject, customer was adamant that I tile directly onto his chipboard floor 15sqm, and that he had already researched Weber flexible adhesive which states and shows a video to promote this. He had even spoke to his local CTD shop and although the shop was not wanting to agree with this their head office had forced them to guarantee floor as long installer adhered to all instruction. I gave him quote for overboarding and told him not interested if not going for boards. It’s a major grey area and it’s not going to go away, but tiler is always going to get the blame when fails as adhesive manufacturers never back up the guy that spends their hard earned money on their products day in day out and yet throw him to the dogs as soon as their is a problem.

 

[Old Mod]

All day long Ian!
Weber in particular have a lot to answer for when it comes to Tiling solutions.
Their solutions page on their website should be removed, it suggests procedures we wouldn’t entertain, unless it suits our needs of course! Haha

 

[Waluigi]

This is no different a scenario than Schluter in my opinion, everyone knows is typically a good product, but availability and cost can make it prohibitive.

In fairness I have to assess situations slightly differently these days, and I’m judging it on my own experiences, which isn’t particularly fair I suppose, so I’ll just leave now, and keep my nose out.

It’s all good. If it gives people that different option when doing a refurb then it’s a good thing. It’s certainly worth mentioning and if you think it’s a good option then you have the credibility on the forum for people to take note. Even a know it all like me

 

[Blunt Tool]

Haha just a heads up don’t just type gifa in google then search, make sure you type in gifa board especially when the wife is sitting next to you haha no please don’t throw any more ornaments at me haha

 

[Old Mod]

Haha just a heads up don’t just type gifa in google then search, make sure you type in gifa board especially when the wife is sitting next to you haha no please don’t throw any more ornaments at me haha

Haha search GIFA board. Capital letters.

 

[Blunt Tool]

Haha search GIFA board. Capital letters.

Something inappropriate came up about grannies haha my head is still sore

 

[Old Mod]

Well if you must use ply, at least use one layer of 12mm straight to joist.
Then cover that in wood glue, cross ply with another layer of 12mm then only screw that in to the first layer at 200 centres, do not go in to the joists.
That is more robust than using 25mm ply, it’s as solid as it comes.

 

[Waluigi]

You typed Gilf didn’t you?!

 

[Waluigi]

Well if you must use ply, at least use one layer of 12mm straight to joist.
Then cover that in wood glue, cross ply with another layer of 12mm then only screw that in to the first layer at 200 centres, do not go in to the joists.
That is more robust than using 25mm ply, it’s as solid as it comes.

But you’re left with a ply wood to tile on to which means to meet the grade the ply wood you’re suggesting would have to be SP101 or FG1 or at least the top layer would need to be.