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[Stef]

It annoys me that us British people haven't had a say in whether or not we should give away part of Britain. No doubt the Scotch will want it both ways, independence and support from Britain. They get massive subsidies up there already.

That's the problem right there, "we get massive subsidies"?
Who do you listen to, the Tory government?
Look a little deeper & you will see that we as per head of population put "IN" more than we get back out...

 

[Fliselege]

I think a very important issue has been overlooked in this historic decision. Is Dan going to set up a Scottish tiling forum just for the sweaty socks? ;-)

 

[Chalker]

If I was Scottish, I could see a few positives and a few negatives.
being English, I can see a few positives and a few negatives.

so to sum up, if they want to go fine, if they want to stay, fine. I don't think England or Scotland will be any worse off either way!

as long as tunnocks tea cakes don't get dearer

 

[Stef]

Paul to the common working man like ourselves there will be no change.
We will still get taxed at every turn.

 

[stone tiler]

It annoys me that us British people haven't had a say in whether or not we should give away part of Britain. No doubt the Scotch will want it both ways, independence and support from Britain.

I don't really care either way but I agree on this bit. You can't split a country up and only ask 10% of the population if they want to do it. We all have an opinion. If they get a say on leaving then why shouldn't we get a say on throwing them out?!?

And more importantly, why can't Leafy Surrey gain independence? We pay in loads too and it all goes up north to support all them work shy Jordie tilers who only want to fit 2 inch square Victorian tiles once a month. If it wasn't for them we'd be rich...RICH I TELL YA!!

 

[jonnyc]

That's the problem right there, "we get massive subsidies"?
Who do you listen to, the Tory government?
Look a little deeper & you will see that we as per head of population put "IN" more than we get back out...

stef
i have not read up on this as much as i should and i am sure many others have not done so either until last few days when there is a panic on.
i am genuinely interested in what you are saying.
tell me what as head per population you put in more than you get out.
in the general domain in uk i dont think we are told that you are not getting a fair deal but our papers would say that i suppose.
for me personally i am just coming out of the recession with my company and looking forward.
i am sure you are feeling the same.
if scotland want independence then i understand that but i worry that both countries could really suffer . there seems to be so many uncertanties.
why is there a difference in dental care and university fees between uk and scotland.
surely if we are unified it should be the same for all.

 

[Stef]

We have got 8.2% of the UK population & pay in 9.9% tax & of that we get 9.3% back to spend in Scotland.
4.4billion goes into the uk treasury...
I'm not sure what years this was from, 2011/12?
There's a lot of lies & claim & counter claim going on up here & that's Cameron, Clegg & Milliband up here today but all that will do is turn more towards a yes vote.

 

[Mr Tiler]

can i come and live in scotland if it does end up indipendant

 

[CJ]

Do the Scots actually believe everything Salmond is saying........he's a Politician for gods sake........they all tell YOU want YOU want to hear.

Same down here.

if it goes the YES route......he will be a hero for a short time only.

 

[One Day]

I think we'll see just how rigged elections can be next week!

 

[Stef]

Do the Scots actually believe everything Salmond is saying........he's a Politician for gods sake........they all tell YOU want YOU want to hear.

Same down here.

if it goes the YES route......he will be a hero for a short time only.

I don't believe everything Salmond is saying, I have done quite a bit of research over the past few months & that has pushed me to a yes vote.
I watched Alistair Darling getting interviewed on Scotland tonight last night & his opening speech was that we all need transparency & the truth then didn't answer one question that was put to him.
I will be glad when it's all by but it is going to have serious implications for everyone..

 

[jonnyc]

I don't believe everything Salmond is saying, I have done quite a bit of research over the past few months & that has pushed me to a yes vote.
I watched Alistair Darling getting interviewed on Scotland tonight last night & his opening speech was that we all need transparency & the truth then didn't answer one question that was put to him.
I will be glad when it's all by but it is going to have serious implications for everyone..

I think so too so why are we going through with this .i can see it going to yes and we are all going to suffer

 

[On one]

And where will the border be?? And how many jobs will be created in order to rebuild hadrians wall?

It has been talked about today......but unfortunately this British resident(me) would end up on the wrong side of the wall!

 

[Ajax123]

Is there going to be a bunch of dispossessed folks... Perhaps we need a refugee camp somewhere near scotch corner...

 

[On one]

My thinking is just because you can(have independance) doesn't mean you should(be independant)
A few nice juicy soundbites from the Yes campaign does not make up for a humongous amount unknown quantities/variables.

 

[On one]

So.....do all the Scots in England,Europe...the rest of the world get to vote?.... just a thought.

 

[Stef]

So.....do all the Scots in England,Europe...the rest of the world get to vote?.... just a thought.

U must have permanent residence in Scotland.

 

[CJ]

My wife (From Edinburgh) would love to vote.........NO!

She has no vote though. Most of her family are voting No.

Salmonds bum twitched early on when he dropped the vote to allow 16 year olds to vote. Christ, 16 year olds don't know wot day it is. Especially the numpties in the part of Edinburgh that I lived in.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Is there going to be a bunch of dispossessed folks... Perhaps we need a refugee camp somewhere near scotch corner...

Unfortunately not everywhere north of Watford is Scotland
Scotch Corner is approx 150 miles south of the border on the A1 from Berwick on Tweed ( it'self a disputed town passing back and forward over the last Millenium).
There is a border now so not sure why it should change and the land in dispute is only for sheep !
No uk government has ever invested in the northern economy despite where they were born, and billions are to be spent getting the few into London faster from Birmingham when the M1 motorway stops just north of Wetherby!
Personally i feel that if this debate results in anything positive then a No vote should mean greater investment in the North and the larger Scottish cities and a Yes vote will be a continuense of neglect for an area of great potential!

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

i have no problem on a vote for independece its every bodys right but this should never been aloud to happen with out a clear plan in place of how you are going to achieve this ie how you are going to break up the nhs how you are going to break up police fire brigade army airforce navy banking currancy tax debt fishing oil uninployment benifits pensions and on it goes no real plans put forward inconpatance on a grand scale by all and we will all be paying the price for years to come a fullscale depression well look on the bright side the mp on all sides will have nice pensions well the rest of us can eat cake

 

[Andy Allen]

Scottish citizens cost the nhs more money per head than anywhere else in the country. No doubt down to the deep fried mars bars and fish n chip suppers. .lol
So is Scotland going to be sorting out its own health care if the vote is yes..?

 

[Andy Allen]

??.

 

[Rookery]

That's the problem right there, "we get massive subsidies"?
Who do you listen to, the Tory government?
Look a little deeper & you will see that we as per head of population put "IN" more than we get back out...

Oh Stef, I'm shocked and surprised at your reply. You didn't comment on my entirely deliberate use of the word 'Scotch'. I only used it to wind you up mate and I failed miserably.

 

[Stef]

Oh Stef, I'm shocked and surprised at your reply. You didn't comment on my entirely deliberate use of the word 'Scotch'. I only used it to wind you up mate and I failed miserably.

No biting from me, I'm sick listening to spin & counter spin from both sides.
To people like me, the common working man, nothing much will change.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

When your paying 50% tax I hope you feel the same!
Dreams have to be paid for.