Who Is Right

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

No, he didn't skirt the dais (he should have done!), but yes, the skirting and T&G was done after the floor was laid. He did the lot.

even more confused / no he didnt skirt the what ever? / he should have done ?/he did the lot ?/

 

[IanA2]

even more confused / no he didnt skirt the what ever? / he should have done ?/he did the lot ?/

Ok, the un-skirted bit of T&G is on the dais. He should have skirted it, but he didn't.

All the T&G and skirting was put in place after the tiles were laid.

The dais is a raised platform on which the freestanding bath sits.

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

the dais never heard that one before can you show some pics of the raised floor against the low floor again who fitted the skirting .just for you i would never fit wood or mdf skirting on top of tiles in a wet area i would lift them off the floor 4mm then silcon the water just loves these on the floor

 

[IanA2]

the dais never heard that one before can you show some pics of the raised floor against the low floor again who fitted the skirting .just for you i would never fit wood or mdf skirting on top of tiles in a wet area i would lift them off the floor 4mm then silcon the water just loves these on the floor

The same guy did everything, skirting, tiling, plumbing, woodwork, electrics, the lot.

The T&G panels were sealed after cutting and before mounting, so hopefully should be ok.

The pics without skirting are the raised floor or dais, and those with skirting, the original floor.

 

[SJPurdy]

"I'm sorry you feel the tiling standard is poor, if it is not level this will be down to floor joists being uneven and even with replacing floor and plying this will not correct the dip unless major alterations are made to the sub floor."

This could be true but then who's job was it to prep the floor. Even if adjusting the joists so level enough to reboard onto was not in the quotation then it should have been flagged up as a problem prior to continuing. I question the structure of the floor here as how many profesionals would now reboard a floor (presumably t&g) and then overlay with ply? (reboard with ply(or other) then tile backer board would be my option).

I think this is nonsense as when I've tiled in the past I've used different amounts of adhesive to level out any problems with the thickness of the tiles or "blemishes" in the substrate.

Most of us do that to some extent but we shouldn't according to BS5385 as the substrate should be prepared correctly (i.e. flat).

I am not really seeing much of a problem with the tiling in the pics. Take the first one yes there is a bit of a gap under the skirt which could be due to slight rise in the corner tile or twisted skirting. Either way the skirting could have been scribed to the floor and/or a white ( rather than clear) sealant could be used. The same I think is true for the other photos. Taking a picture with a level on the tiles that then shows unevenness or lippage may be more meaningful.
The pic with two skirts meeting at a corner (different heights) is not good but again just needs scribing to the floor so they meet.

 

[IanA2]

This could be true but then who's job was it to prep the floor. Even if adjusting the joists so level enough to reboard onto was not in the quotation then it should have been flagged up as a problem prior to continuing. I question the structure of the floor here as how many profesionals would now reboard a floor (presumably t&g) and then overlay with ply? (reboard with ply(or other) then tile backer board would be my option).


Most of us do that to some extent but we shouldn't according to BS5385 as the substrate should be prepared correctly (i.e. flat).

I am not really seeing much of a problem with the tiling in the pics. Take the first one yes there is a bit of a gap under the skirt which could be due to slight rise in the corner tile or twisted skirting. Either way the skirting could have been scribed to the floor and/or a white ( rather than clear) sealant could be used. The same I think is true for the other photos. Taking a picture with a level on the tiles that then shows unevenness or lippage may be more meaningful.
The pic with two skirts meeting at a corner (different heights) is not good but again just needs scribing to the floor so they meet.

It was his job to prepare the floor. The pictures don't really show just how uneven the tiles are. The reality is I think quite simple, he is not a professional tiler and the mistake made are very basic, that is, the adhesive was applied unevenly and/or the pressure he applied in setting the tiles was uneven, hence lips all over the place.

Here a few picks taken with a straight edge across, it doesn't really matter where on the floor the edge is placed, it pretty much shows the same unevenness.

Bottom line is that I think he's done a cr@p job and that his excuse are pathetic. I've done tiling myself (very much an amateur) and I have to say I would have done a better job.

done it better.

Do you think it was a good job?

 

[CJ]

Seen worse.

 

[IanA2]

Seen worse.

So have you looked at all the pics and do you think that overall that the job was carried out to an acceptable standard?

 

[J Sid]

when you decided to let a builder loose on your project did you really expect perfection on all tasks he under took?
a tiler tiles
a plumber plumbs'
a carpenter......
a plaster.....
a electrician makes a mess, has your builder got the correct tickets to do your wiring?
a builder employs the correct trades for each job, he only attempts to do it himself if he is short of work.

 

[IanA2]

when you decided to let a builder loose on your project did you really expect perfection on all tasks he under took?
a tiler tiles
a plumber plumbs'
a carpenter......
a plaster.....
a electrician makes a mess, has your builder got the correct tickets to do your wiring?
a builder employs the correct trades for each job, he only attempts to do it himself if he is short of work.

He put in another bathroom for me a few years ago and the work was ok, in that job he subbed the tiling.
He has gas safe and electric tickets. His plumbing and electric work is satisfactory, as is his carpentry work. I suppose I hadn't really thought about the tiling, at first I assumed it would be subbed out again, and I guess it was a bit late by the time I realised he wasn't. That said, his other work is reasonable so perhaps I assumed his tiling would be ok too. Certainly I know I would have done the tiling better.

I assume from what you have said that you think it's not a good tiling job but that I am at fault for letting him do it. Is that right?

Regards perfection. At the prices this guy charges, it should be a lot better than it is......

ETA: He subbed the plasterer who was fine.