Public Thread!: Poor Tiling Workmanship by DIY and Rogue Traders

Tony_C · May 20, 2019

Less than half an hour later...

snackeroo · May 20, 2019

Andy Rhodes said:
Unfortunately your a victim of the 5 P's poor preparation pi** poor performance.
Have you told him your concerns regarding the workmanship & requested that he rectify them

He knows Andy. I gave him a test area to redo to see how his work panned out and it was still poor. I could not honestly expect to believe he is capable of fixing the whole room if he cannot fix a small area which needed doing. It was all I could do to see how he handles a small area before I would consider letting him loose on the rest of it. So he is pretty much kicked off. Inspectors will be visiting to see his work and I am sure things will be rectified in the right way.

acaciaguy · May 20, 2019

Inspectors? Does the tiler work for a firm?

snackeroo · May 20, 2019

acaciaguy said:
Inspectors? Does the tiler work for a firm?

Yes. He is a subbie.

Dumbo · May 20, 2019

snackeroo said:
Yes. He is a subbie.

When the guys come around from the tiling company keep it on point . Dont start saying he was ten minutes late one day or he didnt shave before he cane to work ir he is a messy worker it just dilutes the fact you are not happy with the work . Keep it on the tiling everything else doesn't matter .

snackeroo · May 20, 2019

jcrtiling said:
When the guys come around from the tiling company keep it on point . Dont start saying he was ten minutes late one day or he didnt shave before he cane to work ir he is a messy worker it just dilutes the fact you are not happy with the work . Keep it on the tiling everything else doesn't matter .

Oh, I agree. I could not care one iota if it was done by Carol Vorderman dressed in leather brandishing a whip and handcuffs (she would never have completed the work after a year

) or atilla the hun in drag. As long as the job is done correctly, that is all that matters. Only the standard of work done matters, nothing else.

acaciaguy · May 20, 2019

jcrtiling said:
When the guys come around from the tiling company keep it on point . Dont start saying he was ten minutes late one day or he didnt shave before he cane to work ir he is a messy worker it just dilutes the fact you are not happy with the work . Keep it on the tiling everything else doesn't matter .

Also if you have a schedule of works or contract the raise what wasn’t done they should have been done etc

Andy Rhodes · May 20, 2019

Jesus,Mary & Joseph If he's a tiler I'm prince charming not shriek , if those pictures are anything to go by shocking is being kind. also like JCR point out above stick to the facts nothing else ,but I might ask the question of why they have somebody employed has produced that standard of work.As for Carol Vonderman in leather would prefer Charlize Theron personally, As for Attila the Hun he'd have probably made a beter job & he was cross eyed according to Charlize in Hancock

Paul it could be 6 ,I was always told it was 5 P's, but what's 1 digit amongst amigos.

Boggs · May 20, 2019

I’m with Paul, 6 P’s.

Tile Shop · Jul 12, 2019

Customer, 60x60 porcelain, complained that the grout joints were cracking and when the tiler went back to do repairs, reckoned he could lift the tiles off the floor with his fingers. He said the tiles were loose as they were too dusty and that there was no written instruction telling him to clean the backs of the tiles before fixing (yeah, I laughed too). Yet when I was there, even though they were fairly easy to lift, still took a hammer and chisel to get them up. Although there was no back-spread, he had used a unique method of fixing...

So who has heard of the "union-jack" fixing method? Tiler of 42 years experience said it as if it was a well known and commonly used method!!! Todd from Ultra went to take a look. First glance after the tiles were lifted "What the..... what on earth is that?"

Other than the fixing method, the problem was that the floor was chipboard, no overlay other than Durabase, then this lot of adhesive. Couldn't see where it had been screwed down, but there was so much deflection in the floor, the adhesive was cracking, you could see it see-sawing as you walked on it and there was no chance it was ever going to survive. I recommended lifting the chipboard, adding noggins, laying a new subfloor such as 22mm NMP, or if 22m timber overboard it with Hardie.... but as I was leaving, the tiler said all he was going to do was self-level over the old adhesive and refit the tiles... He's going to try persuading the customer to take us to court for supplying faulty tiles. I wished him the best of luck.

Spare Tool · Jul 12, 2019

Union jack method...that's a new one, must be a new Great British Standard we haven't heard of

sounds like it could be floating chipboard

Italy · Jul 12, 2019

Paul C. said:
Customer, 60x60 porcelain, complained that the grout joints were cracking and when the tiler went back to do repairs, reckoned he could lift the tiles off the floor with his fingers. He said the tiles were loose as they were too dusty and that there was no written instruction telling him to clean the backs of the tiles before fixing (yeah, I laughed too). Yet when I was there, even though they were fairly easy to lift, still took a hammer and chisel to get them up. Although there was no back-spread, he had used a unique method of fixing...

So who has heard of the "union-jack" fixing method? Tiler of 42 years experience said it as if it was a well known and commonly used method!!! Todd from Ultra went to take a look. First glance after the tiles were lifted "What the..... what on earth is that?"

Other than the fixing method, the problem was that the floor was chipboard, no overlay other than Durabase, then this lot of adhesive. Couldn't see where it had been screwed down, but there was so much deflection in the floor, the adhesive was cracking, you could see it see-sawing as you walked on it and there was no chance it was ever going to survive. I recommended lifting the chipboard, adding noggins, laying a new subfloor such as 22mm NMP, or if 22m timber overboard it with Hardie.... but as I was leaving, the tiler said all he was going to do was self-level over the old adhesive and refit the tiles... He's going to try persuading the customer to take us to court for supplying faulty tiles. I wished him the best of luck.
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what laying pattern is it?

Tile Shop · Jul 12, 2019

antonio said:
what laying pattern is it?

Tiles laid square. Adhesive he made up the layout as he went along!

WetSaw · Jul 12, 2019

antonio said:
what laying pattern is it?

On one · Jul 12, 2019

By the looks of it, it has been tiled before(under the units)
Did they fail as well?

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