60 X 60 Porcelain

[BIMP]

Hi all. Measured for a job today. 80sqm of 600mm x 600mm polished porcelain tile. Has anyone any experience with such a tile. I have a labourer to help me (with lifting, etc) and feel confident of doing good job but is there any hidden surprises? By far the largest size tile I have come across yet and jsut wondering if anyone has any info regarding its installation...

 

[Grace'sDad]

Not done any myself, largest I've done is 600 x 300 - I start 20sqm of 600x600 polished porcelain on Tuesday so I'll be following your thread now!

 

[Fekin]

Only info I could share on tiles this size is having as perfect substrat to tile onto as possible, and you'll find having someone else with you helping to lower tiles into place will be priceless as it's a bloody hard job lowering them into the adhesive on your own, and back buttering them too.

Just remember to fit in expansion joints ever 8 to10 liner meters or so if it's one large room.

 

[brian c]

are theey b&q tiles?if so they stain very easily so beware...i have said my piece on these before....i seal the edges.

make sure that your cutter can take such a big tile and that the substrate is even,otherwise u will get lipping,especially with asuch a big tile.

good luck.

use a round notched trowel,and back butter if needs be.

 

[Northern Bird]

What is the weight,

Plasterboard will only hold 34kg per metre sq

Tilebackerboards can hold more weight

Hardiebacker holds 45kg per m sq

 

[Burnsy]

Probably floor , unless it is a very big room (80m2). Laid some the other week (only 6m though). Used a large format trowel (20mm notched trowel). They are like fricken slabs! Definately get the labourer. I did them on my own and it was hard work, even for such a small area. Because of the thickness, you will need a really thick bed of adhesive, otherwise you will get bad lippage. You will need double the adhesive if you do use a large format trowel and back buttering, but definately would with tiles ythat size. The ones i laid were good quality and i cut them fine on my Rubi Ts 60 and the plasplugs wet cutter cut through them ok aswell.

 

[TilingLogistics]

They weigh around 8.2KG each and you will find it invaluable to have some help. You need PTB adhesive with Porcelbond. Dunlop was the cheapest but check because i havn't fixed for a while and i may be out of touch. Large format floor trowel.

Kev

 

[pjtiler]

use a 20 mm trowel and butter the back of the tile then tap the buggers in with a rubber hammer
nice 4 mm joint looks the business
and dont forget to seal um

 

[smokey1234x]

hav been layin these tiles now the last 2 weeks
any advice i could giv would b if your floor isnt very level make sure u start from the highest point of the floor cos if u dont u will hav problems when trin to hav no lips as edges are very sharpe

 

[stanimal]

I would make sure the subtsrate is flat,backbutter tiles and use large suction cups to place tiles.I have set tile 23 inches by47 inches using these methods

 

[MICK the Tiler]

These are all the rage down here at the mom. :mad2:

My advice would be as others have said ckeck substrate for flatness first, use a 12-15mm notched trowel, when fixing only fix 1 tile at a time postion yourself in the direction your laying your rows and work with the row, don;t be tempted to glue a row and start fixing across yourself, your back and arms won't last the distance, use a square edged timber block to wipe over your joins if it catches anywhere along the joint there is lipping and adjustments will need to be made.

Allow youself to lay between 5-7m2 per day and at least 3 days to grout then polish then seal, DON'T SEAL BEFORE GROUTING. Use a 3mm spacing and grout with a non sanded smooth grout that blends well with the colour of the tile, because they are quite thick sometimes you need to grout over the tiles twice to get a nice full joint allowing the grout to get quite stiff between wipes.

Also use a good quality non-slump floor adhesive i use ardex sts8 for these tiles.

 

[penno]

The first thing to put in your van mate should be two good pads, a total must. You aint pulling these up with your hands if they need a little extra buttering to level.

 

[BIMP]

Great advice, will def get suction pads cos no doubt will have to lift out few tiles. Will keep ye posted on results!!Ben (Ireland)

 

[Deleted member 1779]

Like I always say with Porcelain....


Dont forget your drills !!


R

(Tiles shown actually 300 x 600 laid "brickwork")

 

[strongboes]

Hi mate,

In my opinion suction pads wont help in the slightest, if you think you can pull a 600*600 tile up when bedded in then you are going to end up in hospital. Need an old but sharp chisel to break suction on edge of tile then can lift up with hands no probs.

I would advise you to level your floor to within 2mm per 2 metres first then only trowel the floor, if your going to back butter them then your going to be quite slow and seriously f****d after your first couple of hours. I have done 32 metres of ceramic tiles similar to this a month back in a hotel and so had to do it in one day, was hard but possible, i'd say 2 of you could easily do 25 metres a day.