Ceramic floor tiles...?

[Mr Tiler]

whos not?

 

[ian158]

Ceramics chip easier if something's dropped on them...say...a hammer !

 

[ian158]

When I started tiling I would ask the shop the correct method of what to use..thankfully it was as most have advised in here..but it also gets tiring when someone asks a question and your first responses is...are you a diy'er or being paid for the job!..what does it matter ? Just give them the correct advise and people will be doing the job better..then you won't need to moan about it every time someone posts a question.ot have to go Roy d that poor customers house and put it right...my mum said..you got nothing positive to say, don't say it..why can't you all just turn the record off and give these guys and gals the advise they need and not be so bloody patronising !

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Ceramics chip easier if something's dropped on them...say...a hammer !

Really - I would have not known that !
Thanks very much.

Do I now go into the group of 'bloody patronising' members who have as much right to express an opinion without being criticised as have others for continually whinging about said group!
Do as your mother says - but just stop moaning!

 

[ian158]

Not saying you don't have a right to an opinion at all John..it's just like Groundhog Day everytime some diy'er odd job mulitrade painter plumber jobless 20 something wants advice....

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Ian - I think that all the groups you have mentioned get a good response/input from all established members - most get a welcome and a reply with respect to their enquiry. However some questions asked border on 'no stupid questions' and some are damaging to our trade. Those with the experience to 'read' the post and have many years of nothing but tiling can often be sensitive to protecting a passion and obviously want the job done properly, and thus that's where your Grounhog Day applies! There is IMHO and increase in the amount of chancers undertaking work they have no experience in and charging unsuspecting customers for a lack of knowledge which is putting my trade into disrepute! I personally would rather see a reply which dissuades someone from asking the 'how' and any tiler with an ethical bone would certainly want this occupation to become more professional.
In conclusion - I have no issue with any of the groups you have highlighted, but I'am of the opinion that tiling to a standard is an art gained through experience with a certain amount of passion and enjoyment! To be admonished for telling it as it is is not bitching, complaining or otherwise it's just being honest!

Yours sincerely - timeless John.

 

[ian158]

I hear everything you say...but why lose sleep over what a client has had to go through..it's not your problem...today I went to fit a shower screen..blind..and when I got there I ended up stripping the whole thing out!!..tiles loose..no Silicon anywhere...tiles dot and dabbed on ply...the tiles on the other walls fell off due to PVA being used and just a skin peeled off...I would like to thank the idiot that did that job as its now given me 2 more days work..don't moan about shoddy work...lets relish in getting all this extra work from it..it's been going on for years and will still be going on long after you or I are posting on the tilers forum in the sky..

 

[AliGage]

Ian - I think that all the groups you have mentioned get a good response/input from all established members - most get a welcome and a reply with respect to their enquiry. However some questions asked border on 'no stupid questions' and some are damaging to our trade. Those with the experience to 'read' the post and have many years of nothing but tiling can often be sensitive to protecting a passion and obviously want the job done properly, and thus that's where your Grounhog Day applies! There is IMHO and increase in the amount of chancers undertaking work they have no experience in and charging unsuspecting customers for a lack of knowledge which is putting my trade into disrepute! I personally would rather see a reply which dissuades someone from asking the 'how' and any tiler with an ethical bone would certainly want this occupation to become more professional.
In conclusion - I have no issue with any of the groups you have highlighted, but I'am of the opinion that tiling to a standard is an art gained through experience with a certain amount of passion and enjoyment! To be admonished for telling it as it is is not bitching, complaining or otherwise it's just being honest!

Yours sincerely - timeless John.

Amen!

 

[AMtek]

I think my point is being missed.

1) There is too much bitching in general on the forum
2) If we can save a job failing because someone is doing something slightly wrong (wrong floor prep, wrong primer, wrong adhesive, dot & dabbing) then we should explain why this is wrong instead of tearing people to shreds. If they argue that they are still right then as far as I'm concerned then they are a cowboy and anyone can say whatever they want.
3) Not everyone who asks a basic question is a cowboy they might have just been given the wrong information in the past.

 

[ian158]

Started this today..was going to just change the screen but all the tiles fell off..I'm not sure if a tiler did this, a builder,a plumber but its wrong..but me..a multitrade odd jobber will be putting it right...bring on the cowboys so I can earn money putting there work right !..even if I get slagged off for being one..people who moan about not getting work need to diversify...do you think I need a carpenter to take that ply off the wall.....Only joking !