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[Mr T]

thanks bri was having a look at some on google last night and it turns out.... they are mostly the same haha cheers

 

[AliGage]

Just been observing some of your posts Mr tiler. I think you should put invoices, advertising etc on the back burner for a bit. Not trying to discourage you at all. But learn to walk before you Leap out of the starting blocks and start sprinting. A bad job will bite you in the backside ten fold. You want to be a tiler? A good one. Then learn learn learn.
I describe us as artists. We're a finishing trade. To do it professionally i don't think you can just go out and start doing it self employed. You also need to learn how to run a business.
These short courses teach you nothing more than the concept.

I think personally id want to know exactly what im doing before i start taking peoples hard earned money.

 

[Mr T]

i know i don't know all about tiling at this moment in time but im more than confident of doing the smaller jobs... im not lookingto go self employed but a few small jobs would help towards the bills im falling behind and i don't intend on going it alone i will still be working with a professional tiler every day and the odd day doing my own work well that's how it is in my head and weather il even get any jobs until i start payin for serious adverts i doubt it lol

 

[AliGage]

So am i right in thinking your employed by a tiles?

 

[Mr T]

nah mate im doing voluntary work every day I can with an established tiler

 

[AliGage]

Can he not pay you a wage whilst you gain the practical experience?

 

[Mr T]

apparently not lol I called him out of the blue asking for experience and in return I would do all the dirty parts of the job i told him i didn't want any money and tbh it doesn't seem like he earns enough to pay me anything anyway and he did explain that he wouldn't be able to give me money so i cant moan i love the work im doin so it feels rite to stick wth it and see where i end up the worst thing that could happen is i come out with nothing but a lesson learned and back to factory work and a miserable life lol

 

[AliGage]

I need more people like you around my way. Someone to wash out my buckets and sweep up for free.
Get back on the phone and find someone that can at least pay for your efforts. Think your getting a bum deal to be honest.

 

[Mr T]

nobody wanted me for free mate so i doubt il find anyone who wants to pay me.... i called every tiler i could find before making a descision and the only one who wanted to know was this guy. i already accept im being a moron by doing this for absolutely nothing but until mr super rich tiler comes along and offers me money theres nothing i can do but bite my tounge and play the fool... don't worry mate when im ready i wont be doing another day for free in my life im no mug

 

[AliGage]

Have you done any trade training?

 

[Mr T]

what do ya mean trade training?

 

[AliGage]

Trade course? College? Or is it just what you've done for free with this other tiler?

 

[Mr T]

well i cant go to college because i wouldn't get the small amount i get signing on and doing voluntary work... im picking everything up as i go along basically. I go with him when he prices up and collects materials and when im ready i have somewhere to go for all the advice i need to be prepared to go self employed and am looking into it on the net so i will have a good idea when im getting ready to start my own thing. I know its not the best way to go about it but its the only possible way i can think of.

 

[AliGage]

Your signing on? How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
You're in the (for want of a better word) perfect position. The job centre will fund a tiling course for you.

 

[Mr T]

yeh mate was laid off in December im 24..... I told them about what I was planning on doing and all they seemed concerned about was finding out if I was gonna be earning any money and how it would affect my jobsearch... so after 6 years of working without askin them for a penny im put in the same boat as the rest of the dole dossers so I just blag my jobsearch and tell them im just looking for work its a joke mate they don't help you with anything.