Let's debate , Rubi or Sigma.

[Sigma UK]

Yeah your right. It will be the max or Klick Klock handle. I used to do those cuts at trade days on TS60+ as the pin comes up from underneath you can see the tile opening up as you put pressure on it. It follows the line and away you go. Too much pressure though and it will smash. The hardest one is trying to get a square from the top corner of a tile as it will always break at the weakest point. Worked a couple of times but no.

 

[Sigma UK]

That 50/50 test isn't really much of a test, and yet is the one I always see... What I would like to see, is a cutter taking 10mm off the edge of a full tile. Much more useful.
Diggy, you can put a Rubi wheel into a wooden handle to scribe the curve free hand, rather than trying to scribe and turn the tile on the cutter.. I haven't tried it your way, but it looks more tricky.

Someone on here has already put a video up of taking a strip off the side of a whole tile. Anyone remember who it was?.

 

[Diggy]

I'd like to SEE that as well beanz , I'm all for new little tricks even after 24 years of tiling.

Never too old to learn as they say.

Diggy :0)

 

[Peter]

Learnt on Sigmas. Took a while to get used to the techniques required for different types of tile but once you do, it's second nature. Never had tge problem of not seeing the point of scribe. Used Rubi a few times. Realised within 10 minutes that the fixed breaker on a TS is useless in everyday situations. TX was reasonable but a lot slower than a Sigma.

 

[Diggy]

Never tried a square , done a scribe down then ,about a 45degree with some success in the past.

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[Peter]

Someone on here has already put a video up of taking a strip off the side of a whole tile. Anyone remember who it was?.

Think I have a video up somewhere of taking a fairly small sliver off a 1000x500 and a picture of the 7f taking -10mm off a Vitra white.

 

[Sigma UK]

Think I have a video up somewhere of taking a fairly small sliver off a 1000x500 and a picture of the 7f taking -10mm off a Vitra white.

That's the one Pete. See if you can find it again.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

So, you guys that have used both, have you got a definitive answer as to why a sigma or rubi is the better machine? We can hear Derek from sigma and Mark from rubi harp on about how good their cutters are, but bottom line, what's the aspect in your opinion that makes one better than the other?

 

[Peter]

[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FMHleKAduRw[/video]

[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b8i5tcwlwB0[/video]

 

[beanz]

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[peteablard]

What happened to the Sigma that Bri got as the last I heard he couldn't get on with it?

 

[Diggy]

I don't think there is a definitive answer all joking aside , I find both have +ve / -ve aspects.

I like the bed on the Rubi 700/1200 because the tile doesn't slide around to very much which helps when lining up 2 marks on a large tile.
On my little Sigma I like the base as if I'm doing some standard mosaic , it sits over the centre bar nicely if I want to cut a complete row. I also like it because its so small and is usable in a tight space with ease( although generally I like to set up in a diffo room from wherer I'm tiling )

I don't like the metal bases on sigmas as I find that on an older machine the bed can move around a little.
I dont like the bigger sigmas as I feel they are just too chunky and awkward to move around and have vision of it banging into something. My Rubi comes out of case and sits on thast case and just feels more streamline. Again this is only personal opinion.

I dont like the breaker on the TS as I don't really think they're any good for todays stuff , just the odd kitchen / cheapo bathroom tile now.

Diggy

 

[Peter]

YouTube That should work.

 

[DHTiling]

So, you guys that have used both, have you got a definitive answer as to why a sigma or rubi is the better machine? We can hear Derek from sigma and Mark from rubi harp on about how good their cutters are, but bottom line, what's the aspect in your opinion that makes one better than the other?

There is no mark from rubi , he works for fila now.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

I don't think there is a definitive answer all joking aside , I find both have +ve / -ve aspects.

I like the bed on the Rubi 700/1200 because the tile doesn't slide around to very much which helps when lining up 2 marks on a large tile.
On my little Sigma I like the base as if I'm doing some standard mosaic , it sits over the centre bar nicely if I want to cut a complete row. I also like it because its so small and is usable in a tight space with ease( although generally I like to set up in a diffo room from wherer I'm tiling )

I don't like the metal bases on sigmas as I find that on an older machine the bed can move around a little.
I dont like the bigger sigmas as I feel they are just too chunky and awkward to move around and have vision of it banging into something. My Rubi comes out of case and sits on thast case and just feels more streamline. Again this is only personal opinion.

I dont like the breaker on the TS as I don't really think they're any good for todays stuff , just the odd kitchen / cheapo bathroom tile now.

Diggy

that's the kinda answer i was looking for Diggy, no disrespect to Peter, but want to hear it from guys in the firing line and not from links

 

[beanz]

YouTube That should work.

Nope. For some reason it's taking me to a strange looking page that doesn't work!?! I can see the video's, but it won't let me play them!?!

 

[charlie1]

i cant believe we are having this debate! None of them are the best! They are tools which aid a tiler to tile, the best one is the one that the tiler prefers! Its not about the tool its about the tiler, yes, sigma has better breaking and quicker than rubi but you get better vision with the rubi. The sigma is arguably constructed more efficiently imo.

Dan, maybe you could get the data on winners of jotm and compaire them with tile cutters used, that would be interesting!

 

[Peter]

Nope. For some reason it's taking me to a strange looking page that doesn't work!?! I can see the video's, but it won't let me play them!?!

Not sure then, do a user search for pstiling and have a few videos up.

Never understood the better vision argument but then I have always leant to one side slightly when cutting and never noticed.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

There is no mark from rubi , he works for fila now.

you know what I mean:joker:

 

[beanz]

YouTube That should work.

I take it back, just did a search on your name instead, and watched them that way.. The 1000 x 500 one is pretty impressive!

 

[Dougs Third Go]

i cant believe we are having this debate! None of them are the best! They are tools which aid a tiler to tile, the best one is the one that the tiler prefers! Its not about the tool its about the tiler, yes, sigma has better breaking and quicker than rubi but you get better vision with the rubi. The sigma is arguably constructed more efficiently imo.

Dan, maybe you could get the data on winners of jotm and compaire them with tile cutters used, that would be interesting!

Charlie, wind your neck in pal, without discussion there's no information to give people an informed choice

 

[Sigma UK]

The pole will only show what people have been using for many years here. Seeing as we have only been in the UK for a year and others have been here since the 80's It's going to be one sided. It's best to do a poll in a few years time and then see?.

 

[charlie1]

Charlie, wind your neck in pal, without discussion there's no information to give people an informed choice

My neck is fine doug there are anough thread on this forum containing the words sigma v rubi to go round the earth 3 times! so if people cant make judgment on opinions already made then i cant see what else is going to help them

 

[beanz]

My neck is fine doug there are anough thread on this forum containing the words sigma v rubi to go round the earth 3 times! so if people cant make judgment on opinions already made then i cant see what else is going to help them

The only thing that'll help me really decide, is trying a sigma.. I've tried a few Rubi's and know they are better than what i have now, but i don't like Rubi as a company, as they are a little too comfortable at the top of the tree.

 

[Peter]

These drink fuelled Saturday night Sigma v Rubi debates are making emotions run high :lol: