Lippage clips... charge or not?

[Italy]

Another tool in a tilers tool kit is not going to make us all extinct, years of experience does not get replaced by a piece of plastic! If Joe Public buys them then good the more in demand , the more manufactured, the more the price comes down! If they disappeared tomorrow no big deal!

the tiles are evolving almost every year.
Sincerely after more than 30 years,
Only the basic rules remain.

 

[Andy Allen]

try them, is now

I would mate..... however I rearly fit anything above 600x600....... although plank tiles are popular now and the next job I get 800 or longer I will give them a go....

although I can't see the point of using them on every job for every tile ........ or do you use them for every floor you do ?

 

[Italy]

I would mate..... however I rearly fit anything above 600x600....... although plank tiles are popular now and the next job I get 800 or longer I will give them a go....

although I can't see the point of using them on every job for every tile ........ or do you use them for every floor you do ?

I use them on rectified tiles
Over 30x60.
normal tiles, depends on the tile and the subfloor.
but usually from 50x50 up, or planks from 20x80 up.
Not rectified.
ps. Here 80% of the substrates are sand and cement.
Self-leveling is hardly used, because usually, it is faster to use grinders
And lower the highest points. Otherwise the doors will no longer open.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Can you not cut the doors down or is that not in a tiling apprentices job description?

 

[Italy]

John, you're asking too much for my English.
I try to explain, there are no doors when I start a job.
The entrance door of the house, has a stone slab,
And the tiles must respect that plan.
The inner doors, the ones that flow into the wall, have little room
in order to raise leveling the substrate.
Depends on how the counter-frame was fixed.
And then, just ask questions, I'm an apprentice
And I have to ask questions.
Ps. I will take photos at the first opportunity.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Your doing great!

 

[Flintstone]

I have used clips only twice, once on 80x
80 rectified and once on 60x60 rectified and I will use them everytime for rectified tiles of that size and beyond. I've not had to use any bent planks thankfully but I would use them if I had a job with Bent planks! Some people do go ott and use them on all tiles

 

[Andy Allen]

Antonio..... in this country if you tile a floor and the doors don't fit , you get one of them 'multi trades people' to cut the bottom off the door...

 

[LJD]

Clients pay for everything I list in my materials list ..Nothing is for free .But if I forget, then its down to me

 

[Flintstone]

Listing each material item separate with prices is the worst thing you can do when quoting!

 

[LJD]

I dont let them see the list , As I wrote , its MY list ! they only get to see the total !

 

[Spare Tool]

I can't see a problem with giving an itemised estimate of materials with prices, the total still ends up the same...
Long as I'm making profit on everything why is it so wrong?

 

[Andy Allen]

I can't see a problem with giving an itemised estimate of materials with prices, the total still ends up the same...
Long as I'm making profit on everything why is it so wrong?

Because if you tell them a bag of adhesive is £15 then they will get there own rubbish make cheaper and you have to explain why your not using there tub of fix 'n' grout crap they buy for £3.99....!!

 

[Spare Tool]

Because if you tell them a bag of adhesive is £15 then they will get there own rubbish make cheaper and you have to explain why your not using there tub of fix 'n' grout crap they buy for £3.99....!!

Not had that happen ever though Andy..
The price is still the same wether you break it down or not, infact I quite like justifying why the materials price is what it is

 

[Flintstone]

I buy all my gear from a local independent shop, and I charge the customer a fair price for it, but if they go searching on line it comes up with all sorts of daft low prices, I've had that before even I can't supply for those online prices. You don't need to itemise every item, a joiner doesn't itemise his screws, I'm
Sure

 

[Spare Tool]

I buy all my gear from a local independent shop, and I charge the customer a fair price for it, but if they go searching on line it comes up with all sorts of daft low prices, I've had that before even I can't supply for those online prices. You don't need to itemise every item, a joiner doesn't itemise his screws, I'm
Sure

...

 

[Flintstone]

How have you managed that, that's only about 10 bags of adhesive!

 

[Spare Tool]

....

 

[Spare Tool]

No prices in open forums you know that.

 

[Dumbo]

Because if you tell them a bag of adhesive is £15 then they will get there own rubbish make cheaper and you have to explain why your not using there tub of fix 'n' grout crap they buy for £3.99....!!

I like the customer to know how much I'm spending on fixing materials just so they don't think I'm making a shred load of money every day. I had one customer who got his adhesive of off topps tile because my adhesive was to expensive until I told him he didn't have enough and I could supply at half the price . Obviously I only gave a price for adhesive and not how many bags in my quote .

 

[LM]

I've no set rules, I judge it as I see it. 'Courses for horses' and all that.

 

[Andy Allen]

I just give a total price which says it includes all materials and Labour.

 

[Dumbo]

I just give a total price which says it includes all materials and Labour.

I just find that some jobs are so heavy on the materials if you don't explain where their money is going they get that bloke to do it who totally underestimated to do it and then their troubles start .

 

[Flintstone]

I do agree with that actually, some times materials are a loads and it makes it look very expensive, boarding a large area with cement board or levelling a large area is bad for that

 

[Flintstone]

It's great to see @Andystiletiling back on here !