Opinions please

[AliGage]

thanks for that ali, whats a nib mate?

 

[Andy Allen]

Wouldn't of got involved. Been there got the t-shirt and from my experience it ain't worth the hassle. .

 

[Diggy]

In both cases as far as I'm concerned.......it's not your job, or your problem. If they both went against your advice and then someone else done the tiling, then that's between the builder & customer.

You may come out as a case of sour grapes.

+1 , agree with CJ here.

Nothing to do with you , move on.

Diggy

 

[Colour Republic]

Ali I think this might come back to bite you.

If you have told the client then hope you had 100% percent of the facts and that you know catagorically the spec was incorrect

 

[AliGage]

Ali I think this might come back to bite you.

If you have told the client then hope you had 100% percent of the facts and that you know catagorically the spec was incorrect

Straight from Schluters mouth. I forwarded my emails with them.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I'am just a tiler - never been on a 2 day course for anything so what would I know!

 

[Peter]

I would never say anything direct to the client on a builders job, it's the builder you should be speaking to.

 

[widler]

i can understand the system being less efficient,with it being so much thicker.
but why is it wrong ?
whats up with it having fibres in,i thought they were in so it makes it better ? what reason did schulter give you to how it would fail and why ali.

 

[AliGage]

The Bekotec panels are designed to purposely fracture a thin 4:1 screed. Basically controlling the screed as it dries. If it was reinforced then this would prevent the purposeful fracturing.

The panels are also loose fit. Essentially the UFH is a floating floor. Such a deep screed could curl as it dries, lifting the panels. The screed could then crack and crumble once it bears a load.

 

[Chalker]

Velta do a similar system with insulated egg box type panels. Fitted lads of them in the past. Very
large rooms with 80mm of sand And cement screed. Been back to one recently to sort a plumbing problem. Its 12 years old with no probs.
dont get involved! It is not been done exactly to current manufacturers instructions, but will probably be fine.
if it isn't then thats the builders problem.

 

[widler]

Still don't get the problem ali, can not find,even with your explanation ,a problem occurring with a thicker/fibre screed .
But if its not to speck, and the builder has oked it, i wouldnt bother with getting involved.
I had a builder the other month, main contractor , he knew better than EVERY tradesman in the build, they are all tossers, leave them to it and don't worry about it.
Its nothing to do with you ali, you will do more damage to your rep 'grassing' than a floor which will most prob be fine for years

 

[TJ Smiler]

I think that although the way it has been done is not 100% to spec that it would be fine, not that i would ever question what Schulter recommends but i also (same as Widler) can't see what the problem is with how it's been done. If you had been able to get your hands on it from the off then i would have certainly done it the way Schulter suggests but you gave your advice and you was ignored and they chose someone else who would do it there way so i would just leave it there mate, your conscience is clear that you advised the 'correct' installation for that situation....

Builders always no best anyway!!!!

 

[High Peak Tiling]

I am with many of the others Ali.
But I would also consider not telling them, because if something goes wrong and they approach the builder... They might draw you into it (Then your the bad guy in the builders eyes)
But as you said, honestly is the best policy... Had decision really

 

[High Peak Tiling]

I think that although the way it has been done is not 100% to spec that it would be fine, not that i would ever question what Schulter recommends but i also (same as Widler) can't see what the problem is with how it's been done. If you had been able to get your hands on it from the off then i would have certainly done it the way Schulter suggests but you gave your advice and you was ignored and they chose someone else who would do it there way so i would just leave it there mate, your conscience is clear that you advised the 'correct' installation for that situation....

Builders always no best anyway!!!!

In 2 cases I have come across, architects always no best too ...!

 

[TJ Smiler]

In 2 cases I have come across, architects always no best too ...!

Had a smarmy architect come to a bathroom a few weeks ago, she asked me why one cut to one side of the wall was different to the other, i told her it was because i had centered the tiles according to the window and that if i had centred them according to the walls they would have had a 25mm cut running up the side of the window. She said i always thought that tilers centered all there tiles according to the walls...... I replied that i always thought an architect would have thought about the tiling before you installed the window where you have and centered it according to the width of the room and the size of tile being used to ensure a perfect Finnish. Funny, she never answered me.....but the chippy thought it was funny