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len
Well spotted pjc, no one had asked what surface Mark was fixing to. If the walls aint yet plastered, keep it that way. Dont allow your brother anywhere near them with that material!
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Perry
Len you got it 
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mwss77
Hi Pete
Sorry for the delay in posting back, There are 3 internal brick walls and 1 internal stud wall. All walls were previously tiled but have had tiles knocked off by the customer.
I have a ishi big clinker manual cutter and the Plaspugs pro tiler plus wet electric tile cutter. I understand that the plasplugs cutter will handle porcelain tiles.
From what i gather the big clinker should also cut porcelain or would this be incorrect.
Thanks
mark
Sorry for the delay in posting back, There are 3 internal brick walls and 1 internal stud wall. All walls were previously tiled but have had tiles knocked off by the customer.
I have a ishi big clinker manual cutter and the Plaspugs pro tiler plus wet electric tile cutter. I understand that the plasplugs cutter will handle porcelain tiles.
From what i gather the big clinker should also cut porcelain or would this be incorrect.
Thanks
mark
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len
excuse me for steping in while your waiting for peter.Are we talking bare brick or is there a finish on it. As for the studwork wall,the preferance would be Wedi board or similar.Second ,and much cheaper option is bare plasterboard.
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mwss77
Hi Len
No probs, Thanks for reply, There is the original plaster. I will though have to check the state of the walls next week as the customer has removed the old tiles that were originally in place.
Due to the size of the tiles. What would you have advised, would you tile on existing tiles or always start aginst the wall surface.
Mark
No probs, Thanks for reply, There is the original plaster. I will though have to check the state of the walls next week as the customer has removed the old tiles that were originally in place.
Due to the size of the tiles. What would you have advised, would you tile on existing tiles or always start aginst the wall surface.
Mark
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len
removing the tiles was the correct move. If your tiles are within the weight limit then go with Bal APD as suggested by Grumpy. It is specifically formulated to allow the use of cement adhesives on plaster. As far as i know the same cannot be said of Bal Bond. Alternatively ,stripping the plaster back to the cement render is a better option
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DHTiling
BAL Bond SBR
A waterbased polymer with a wide variety of uses in the construction industry, particularly as an admixture and bonding agent for cement and concrete applications. Once cured, the polymer is water and frost resistant. BAL BOND SBR can be used as a slurry coat when mixed with hydraulic cement or gypsum plaster, as a multi-purpose admixture for cement:sand mortars, concrete and gypsum plaster; as a brush applied primer, sealer or dustproofer.
Suitable for use on cement:sand screeds, toppings or renderings, plastering, waterproofing, bonding, concrete repair, priming and sealing.
BAL Prime APD
A modified acrylic polymer dispersion for use as a primer for a variety of backgrounds/bases prior to fixing ceramic tiles, mosaics and natural stone and prior to the application of levelling compound and the BAL WP1 TANKING SYSTEM. BAL PRIME APD isolates products containing calcium sulphate such as gypsum plaster and anhydrite screeds from cement-based adhesives, thus minimising the risk of reaction between the two materials.
Also suitable for use on cement:sand rendering, blockwork, plasterboard, cement:sand screeds and timber. It also provides surface strength to friable surfaces and reduces the porosity of porous backgrounds/bases, thus preventing the formation of air bubbles and prolonging the flow time with levelling compounds and extending the open time of tile adhesives. The primer is blue in colour to help ensure that a complete and even coating is obtained.
hope this helps.....
A waterbased polymer with a wide variety of uses in the construction industry, particularly as an admixture and bonding agent for cement and concrete applications. Once cured, the polymer is water and frost resistant. BAL BOND SBR can be used as a slurry coat when mixed with hydraulic cement or gypsum plaster, as a multi-purpose admixture for cement:sand mortars, concrete and gypsum plaster; as a brush applied primer, sealer or dustproofer.
Suitable for use on cement:sand screeds, toppings or renderings, plastering, waterproofing, bonding, concrete repair, priming and sealing.
BAL Prime APD
A modified acrylic polymer dispersion for use as a primer for a variety of backgrounds/bases prior to fixing ceramic tiles, mosaics and natural stone and prior to the application of levelling compound and the BAL WP1 TANKING SYSTEM. BAL PRIME APD isolates products containing calcium sulphate such as gypsum plaster and anhydrite screeds from cement-based adhesives, thus minimising the risk of reaction between the two materials.
Also suitable for use on cement:sand rendering, blockwork, plasterboard, cement:sand screeds and timber. It also provides surface strength to friable surfaces and reduces the porosity of porous backgrounds/bases, thus preventing the formation of air bubbles and prolonging the flow time with levelling compounds and extending the open time of tile adhesives. The primer is blue in colour to help ensure that a complete and even coating is obtained.
hope this helps.....
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len
oh dear,beg to differ Dave.
BAL PRIME APD isolates products containing calcium sulphate such as gypsum plaster and anhydrite screeds from cement-based adhesives, thus minimising the risk of reaction between the two materials.
Did my homework before posting,and came to the conclusion that Bal Bond,despite being such a versatile product which does just about everything,does not include the above service in its repertoire.Not a mention of it
BAL PRIME APD isolates products containing calcium sulphate such as gypsum plaster and anhydrite screeds from cement-based adhesives, thus minimising the risk of reaction between the two materials.
Did my homework before posting,and came to the conclusion that Bal Bond,despite being such a versatile product which does just about everything,does not include the above service in its repertoire.Not a mention of it
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Perry
Mark not sure about the cutters have never used them, think Lens got it about right pick one up not easy to throw about on wet cutters dont forget to butter the backs as Dave surgested good luck Pete
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len
GOT TO MAKE A RETRACTION ON THIS.
Spoke to BAL Tech. today. Bal Bond IS suitable as a plaster primer for cement based adhesives, it states so in the first sentence on the back of the bottle.They are aware that they have omitted it from their spec. sheet.
APD though still suitable for the job, is now the primer for their WPI tanking and for priming bare floorboards to prevent them from warping as the adhesive sets.
