Remove plinths for tiling a floor?

[2020Tiling]

Hi, Is it fine to leave the kitchen floor plinths on and tile up to them? I normally remove them but these are stuck solid and I may damage them if I try taking them off

 

[AliGage]

There is no real reason to need to removed them. Plinths, or kickboards are designed to protect the doors, not hide services as some people suggest.
As long as the stop **** isn't hidden behind one then I'd say tile upto if you can't remove them.

Not too tight on your tiling though, remember to leave room for expansion.

 

[tweakyboy]

Why not lay the tile down next to plinth add 5mm for adhesive/2mm gap for silicone then cut them off with a multi master if you have one?

 

[AliGage]

Why not lay the tile down next to plinth add 5mm for adhesive/2mm gap for silicone then cut them off with a multi master if you have one?

I wouldn't suggest cutting plinths from the bottom. The case edge will have a laminate face. Doing as you suggest will expose the chipwood or MDF Material. You then have the issue of water ingress anytime you mop the floor or spill liquid.

Tile up to and you save the integrity of the board.

 

[Mr Tiler]

plus you cant guarantee a nice straight cut using that method can you? that is why you cut the top end of plinth when you remove so the cut is no visible

 

[tweakyboy]

You can get a decent cut with a multi master , I did say add another 2mm on top of the 3mm adhesive/tile to allow for silicone bead after its been done to prevent just that.

Just means its easier for the next person if any work needs to be done, saves damage to the tile and plinths if something does need to be worked on.

 

[Gazzer]

I dont think I would like to cut plinths off using a Multimaster....it would take ages !

 

[Martyn Leeds]

I may damage them if I try taking them off

Have we tried to take them off yet??

 

[mz30]

Leave it up to the client,i tile and that's it cosmetic issues I leave to their choice if they want to get kick boards cut down to suit give them the option of a joiner,when you deviate from your trade that's when problems happen in my personal experience.

 

[Colour Republic]

Leave it up to the client,i tile and that's it cosmetic issues I leave to their choice if they want to get kick boards cut down to suit give them the option of a joiner,when you deviate from your trade that's when problems happen in my personal experience.

I disagree. If it's something a trade comes up against a lot then they should be able to do it as part of the service. In my mind a tiler should be able to disconnect a toilet and put it back in... cut some kickerboards down... patch plaster the odd bit of wall. It's not as if these aren't daily occurrences which tilers come up against and these basic jobs aren't rocket science!


Back on these kickerboards that won't budge... is it a very old kitchen? or a bespoke hand made one? if neither then they really should just pop off as they should be on clips.

As for tiling up to them, personally I hate that look and it is always useful to be able to remove kickerboards... also before you do go blindly tiling up to them, please open all the cupboards to make sure there are no integrated appliances which will never come out again if you do!

 

[trevortine]

I disagree. If it's something a trade comes up against a lot then they should be able to do it as part of the service. In my mind a tiler should be able to disconnect a toilet and put it back in... cut some kickerboards down... patch plaster the odd bit of wall. It's not as if these aren't daily occurrences which tilers come up against and these basic jobs aren't rocket science!


Back on these kickerboards that won't budge... is it a very old kitchen? or a bespoke hand made one? if neither then they really should just pop off as they should be on clips.

As for tiling up to them, personally I hate that look and it is always useful to be able to remove kickerboards... also before you do go blindly tiling up to them, please open all the cupboards to make sure there are no integrated appliances which will never come out again if you do!

Yup, the correct answer! Handy tip for pulling them off is using tile sucker on them. Personally never leave them on, such a neater finish tiling under and trimming.

 

[mz30]

You are both missing my point ,I think? I will always remove them but will ask the client if they have a joiner who will cut them down if needed,i tile and will give advice on the best finish,don't know about you guys but I wouldn't make myself liable for cutting down kickboards etc am a tiler not a joiner ,as for taking out toilets etc once you do that your liable for any leaks etc,i have learnt that your best not getting involved with other stuff,but if you do full refits then its par for the course

 

[Brian the Tile]

and i dont agree with you Colour Republic,a tiler is a tiler and should be fixing tiles,an odd jobber is one that thinks they can do the lot but has no real trade,myself i am a tiler and that is what i do ,but back to the question asked ,i would give the customer the choice of having them cut down or tile up to them,better to have them cut down imo if there are pipea behind them that may need to be got at, no offence meant with my comment but there are to many people trying to do other trades jobs and in the end the customer ends up paying a lot morein the long run ,and in a lot of cases abotched job to go with it ,i have looked at two of theese jobs today done by a jack of all trades

 

[prceramics]

i have a little table saw that cuts them like a dream just make sure you tape up the cut line and bingo

 

[Colour Republic]

ohhhh come on!!!!! cutting down some kickerboards is hardly being a handyman or odd jobber. It's something you should be able to do in the course of your daily work.


Can you imagine a plumber coming along and going "sorry madam I can't lift your floorboards to run your new pipework, you'll have to get a chippy in to do that"

 

[Andy Allen]

I disagree. If it's something a trade comes up against a lot then they should be able to do it as part of the service. In my mind a tiler should be able to disconnect a toilet and put it back in... cut some kickerboards down... patch plaster the odd bit of wall. It's not as if these aren't daily occurrences which tilers come up against and these basic jobs aren't rocket science!


Back on these kickerboards that won't budge... is it a very old kitchen? or a bespoke hand made one? if neither then they really should just pop off as they should be on clips.

As for tiling up to them, personally I hate that look and it is always useful to be able to remove kickerboards... also before you do go blindly tiling up to them, please open all the cupboards to make sure there are no integrated appliances which will never come out again if you do!

I don't do any of that ,because im not insured for it, however I can recommend a plumber, a carpenter and a plasterer....every man to there own trade...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[m3fitter]

remove plinths....100%... its a bodge and cowboyish to see a groutjoint next to plinths... apply yourself, its not hard..think of the recommends not the immediate money, we offer a service.. the tiler who doesn't take out an existing w.c and basin to tile underneath, replumb and re install, isn't offering the full service, however you wanna look at it.... that's why recessions are good, they sort out the tradesmnen from the cowboy chancers... this job isn't textbook, I do this, and not that.. its I can sort this out as I want to, for their sake and mine longterm, think about it.... the longterm survivors and people not short of work ever, think like this.. if not carry on.. keep seeking new business.. make it harder longterm for yourself.. its a plinth.. its a door.. think of the bigger picture !

 

[prceramics]

if its really expensive stuff i wont touch it but if i could afford to replace out of my own pocket if it goes wrong i will, never charge for cutting them or doors, all part of the service

 

[Colour Republic]

but you can all cut down ply to fit a floor right????? :mad2::mad2::mad2: Or I suppose you all pay you chippys to come in and do it for you?

 

[Ian]

I don't do kick boards or trim doors, only because I don't have the tools, I'm perfectly capable of doing it just choose not to.

 

[mma]

IMO it's all well and good taking toilets out, but if it was a bodged installation in the first place, you can literally end up in the poo! Any problems further down the line, then the customer will be straight on the blower, "my toilets leaking, my toilets leaking". Rather not get involved, same with rads.

 

[prceramics]

i would not feel comfortable leaving a customers house with there toilet door still off

 

[Ian]

but you can all cut down ply to fit a floor right????? :mad2::mad2::mad2: Or I suppose you all pay you chippys to come in and do it for you?

Thats a bit different, ply doesn't have to be cut perfectly as it'll never be seen, if I were to make a dogs dinner of someone's plinths or door, it's there on show.

 

[Andy Allen]

but you can all cut down ply to fit a floor right????? :mad2::mad2::mad2: Or I suppose you all pay you chippys to come in and do it for you?

I don't pay chippy's to do it the customer dose..

 

[mma]

Sorry Bri!!