Remove plinths for tiling a floor?

[Andy Allen]

some tilers Should be ashamed of themselves. So you don’t fit backer board or SLC or patch walls or cut architrave or fit UFH or install tanking. When you have a floor that needs strengthening how do you cope if you cant even cut a plinth. I have heard some rubbish spouted in my time but this is just pathetic.

difference is dean all the prep you do for tiling is covered up so it isn't an issue, yes I can patch a wall for tiling but I couldn't plaster a wall to a perfect finish same as a pro would ...I can knock up a bit of boxing in that needs tiling, just don't feel comfortable plaining doors etc, that are going to be on show..

 

[Ian]

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What makes you think you can't cut oak with a handsaw? Oak has been used as a building material for hundreds of years what do you think they used then?

Don't chop away at anything, saw the bottoms off, then take the aris off with a small bit of sandpaper.

I don't know Rob, I've never tried. I suppose that's my point entirely, I've never done it and the reason for that is, I don't know how, as I've just proved by thinking a handsaw wasn't suitable

 

[Brian the Tile]

some tilers Should be ashamed of themselves. So you don’t fit backer board or SLC or patch walls or cut architrave or fit UFH or install tanking. When you have a floor that needs strengthening how do you cope if you cant even cut a plinth. I have heard some rubbish spouted in my time but this is just pathetic.

I have no need to be ashamed my friend and i dont think a lot of other tilers have to be neither,also i dont see anyone saying that they cant cut a plinth down, i have said i am a wall & floor tiler been doing the job 43 years i do what it says on the tin,not saying i cant do it, look up what a tradesman is,i tell the customer it is to there benefit by getting the proper tradesperson in then i know in my own mind i am not ripping anybody off by taking a lot longer than the proper trade concerned,iwouldnt go to car showroom and ask for a meat pie ,just saying

 

[Mr Tiler]

no disrespect meant at all when I say this brian but how many jobs have you potentially lost by doing this? if you need to get another tradesman in is that not going to put the customer off most of the time? cheers

 

[ian158]

I dont think I would like to cut plinths off using a Multimaster....it would take ages !

And blades are £10 each !..fixed plinths are unusual..you sure they are not screwed in from top inside units ?

 

[salmonfisher]

plinths on older style kitchens before adjustable legs don't come of there fixed with dowels you can tell because the plinth is the same length as the unit and not one long length

 

[Stef]

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And blades are £10 each !..fixed plinths are unusual..you sure they are not screwed in from top inside units ?

Try Saxton blades on flea-bay!!

 

[ian158]

and i dont agree with you Colour Republic,a tiler is a tiler and should be fixing tiles,an odd jobber is one that thinks they can do the lot but has no real trade,myself i am a tiler and that is what i do ,but back to the question asked ,i would give the customer the choice of having them cut down or tile up to them,better to have them cut down imo if there are pipea behind them that may need to be got at, no offence meant with my comment but there are to many people trying to do other trades jobs and in the end the customer ends up paying a lot morein the long run ,and in a lot of cases abotched job to go with it ,i have looked at two of theese jobs today done by a jack of all trades

You deal with cutting tiles and tolerances all day with tiles..it doesn't need a chippie to remove plinths and run them down wirh a small saw..even a hand saw will do it..don't get the negativity..help the customer..charge them an hours work if need be..who's going to come out and cut some plinths down..not worth the diesel !

 

[Ian]

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no disrespect meant at all when I say this brian but how many jobs have you potentially lost by doing this? if you need to get another tradesman in is that not going to put the customer off most of the time? cheers

I've never lost a job because I haven't trimmed a door or plinth. Funnily enough, customers employ me to stick squares and rectangles to things, not make alterations to their wood work. I have a joiner who I recommend or get him to pop over for an hour and do anything that's needed.

 

[Bubblecraft]

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I've never lost a job because I haven't trimmed a door or plinth. Funnily enough, customers employ me to stick squares and rectangles to things, not make alterations to their wood work. I have a joiner who I recommend or get him to pop over for an hour and do anything that's needed.

I'm actually surprised that a few folk here have never trimmed a door or plinth. Wow

 

[Mr Tiler]

does that come out of your pocket or is it added to the final bill? or do you quote it before hand mate? cheers.

 

[ian158]

some tilers Should be ashamed of themselves. So you don’t fit backer board or SLC or patch walls or cut architrave or fit UFH or install tanking. When you have a floor that needs strengthening how do you cope if you cant even cut a plinth. I have heard some rubbish spouted in my time but this is just pathetic.

So when's a tiler not a tiler..when he's cutting plinths and doors and patch plastering..I totally agree with everything you say

 

[Brian the Tile]

no disrespect meant at all when I say this brian but how many jobs have you potentially lost by doing this? if you need to get another tradesman in is that not going to put the customer off most of the time? cheers

i realy couldnt give you a honest answer to that ,all i can say is that if i asked a decorator to come and give me a price to paper my living room ,i wouldnt expect a butcher to turn up,no disrespect either,just saying like ,i like to think i am a tradesman,a tiling specialist is what i am, it how i have made a living for 43 years ,simples,

 

[Bubblecraft]

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It goes on the quote just before accessory fitting

 

[ian158]

skip them, then tell them to get a joiner in to hang a new one :lol:



It's just the same Tea Bag, there should be enough rail to trim the bottom of the door down by 5, 10, 20mm. If there isn't because it's been hung in correctly and you can't repostion the rail then by all means pass it up and tell them it's not something you can do. But that is on the rare ocassion, so no need to turn down the other 99 times it isn't an issue.

I wouldn't expect tilers to start re-hanging doors, ffitting kicthens, plastering whole rooms but the very basic jobs shouldn't be any issue at all.

All you're doing is making life harder for your customers by telling them to get all these extra trades in to do tiny jobs which they will charge a premium for as it takes longer to drive to the job than it actually takes to do it.

so..tilers are mulitrades...I knew it..see Dave ? Lol.

 

[Mr Tiler]

It goes on the quote just before accessory fitting

do you mean you write it up on the quote under 'accessory fitting'? I don't think I got that one sorry mate

 

[Andy Allen]

I really don't get this..? just because your a tiler dose that mean you must be perfect in every job in the building trade..? like Bri I've never lost a job cause I don't plain a door, infact most customers don't expect me to as that's a carpenters job.....or one of you multi bodgers jobs...:sofahide:..:lol:

 

[Bubblecraft]

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do you mean you write it up on the quote under 'accessory fitting'? I don't think I got that one sorry mate

Sorry mate, as my quotes/invoices are fully itemised, it has its own line. I just meant its at the end of every quote next to accessory fitting

 

[Andy Allen]

wow, 6 pages on how to remove a plinth...:lol:

 

[radim]

as time served joiner I don't see problem in cutting kickers or trimming wooden doors. problem is plastic entry door.....
it is not rocket science to trim kickers with fine saw or using electric planer for door

 

[rich83]

i think it would be a great idea for the guys on here to share their experience thru tutorial videos, i definettly find it easier to watch it being done rather than read about how its done.maybe the forum could add,a how to video section.which people could upload to.as bri says if you've not been taught how to do something ,then you cant do it.or maybe some one who would like to learn a particular skill,could put a shout out to anyone near by to invite them to watch them do it. its all about the confidence girlfriend:idea3:

 

[Bubblecraft]

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i think it would be a great idea for the guys on here to share their experience thru tutorial videos, i definettly find it easier to watch it being done rather read about how its done.maybe the forum could add,a how to video section.which people could upload to.as bri says if you've not been taught how to do something ,then you cant do it.or maybe some one who would like to learn a particular skill,could put a shout out to anyone near by to invite them to watch them do it. its all about the confidence girlfriend:idea3:

I don't mind helping anyone out. There's a few here that already call me for advice. Not sure about doing the vid thing though lol. Anyone needing advice on Joinery, electrical, plumbing or decorating, I'm here

 

[ian158]

I really don't get this..? just because your a tiler dose that mean you must be perfect in every job in the building trade..? like Bri I've never lost a job cause I don't plain a door, infact most customers don't expect me to as that's a carpenters job.....or one of you multi bodgers jobs...:sofahide:..:lol:

yea coz here's one I bodged last year in Aylesbury...you stay behind that sofa Kilroy !

 

[Andy Allen]

you missed a bit...:lol:

 

[Rookery]

wow, 6 pages on how to remove a plinth...:lol:

7 now. For the record, I always saw/plane down plinths or doors that I'd taken off to tile. I'm sure my customers would be cross if I didnt. I use a hand saw and/or an electric planer.