Remove plinths for tiling a floor?

no disrespect meant at all when I say this brian but how many jobs have you potentially lost by doing this? if you need to get another tradesman in is that not going to put the customer off most of the time? cheers

i realy couldnt give you a honest answer to that ,all i can say is that if i asked a decorator to come and give me a price to paper my living room ,i wouldnt expect a butcher to turn up,no disrespect either,just saying like ,i like to think i am a tradesman,a tiling specialist is what i am, it how i have made a living for 43 years ,simples,
 
skip them, then tell them to get a joiner in to hang a new one :lol:



It's just the same Tea Bag, there should be enough rail to trim the bottom of the door down by 5, 10, 20mm. If there isn't because it's been hung in correctly and you can't repostion the rail then by all means pass it up and tell them it's not something you can do. But that is on the rare ocassion, so no need to turn down the other 99 times it isn't an issue.

I wouldn't expect tilers to start re-hanging doors, ffitting kicthens, plastering whole rooms but the very basic jobs shouldn't be any issue at all.

All you're doing is making life harder for your customers by telling them to get all these extra trades in to do tiny jobs which they will charge a premium for as it takes longer to drive to the job than it actually takes to do it.

so..tilers are mulitrades...I knew it..see Dave ? Lol.
 
I really don't get this..? just because your a tiler dose that mean you must be perfect in every job in the building trade..? like Bri I've never lost a job cause I don't plain a door, infact most customers don't expect me to as that's a carpenters job.....or one of you multi bodgers jobs...:sofahide:..:lol:
 
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do you mean you write it up on the quote under 'accessory fitting'? I don't think I got that one sorry mate

Sorry mate, as my quotes/invoices are fully itemised, it has its own line. I just meant its at the end of every quote next to accessory fitting
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as time served joiner I don't see problem in cutting kickers or trimming wooden doors. problem is plastic entry door.....
it is not rocket science to trim kickers with fine saw or using electric planer for door
 
i think it would be a great idea for the guys on here to share their experience thru tutorial videos, i definettly find it easier to watch it being done rather than read about how its done.maybe the forum could add,a how to video section.which people could upload to.as bri says if you've not been taught how to do something ,then you cant do it.or maybe some one who would like to learn a particular skill,could put a shout out to anyone near by to invite them to watch them do it. its all about the confidence girlfriend:idea3:
 
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i think it would be a great idea for the guys on here to share their experience thru tutorial videos, i definettly find it easier to watch it being done rather read about how its done.maybe the forum could add,a how to video section.which people could upload to.as bri says if you've not been taught how to do something ,then you cant do it.or maybe some one who would like to learn a particular skill,could put a shout out to anyone near by to invite them to watch them do it. its all about the confidence girlfriend:idea3:

I don't mind helping anyone out. There's a few here that already call me for advice. Not sure about doing the vid thing though lol. Anyone needing advice on Joinery, electrical, plumbing or decorating, I'm here
 
I really don't get this..? just because your a tiler dose that mean you must be perfect in every job in the building trade..? like Bri I've never lost a job cause I don't plain a door, infact most customers don't expect me to as that's a carpenters job.....or one of you multi bodgers jobs...:sofahide:..:lol:

yea coz here's one I bodged last year in Aylesbury...you stay behind that sofa Kilroy !
 

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wow, 6 pages on how to remove a plinth...:lol:
7 now. For the record, I always saw/plane down plinths or doors that I'd taken off to tile. I'm sure my customers would be cross if I didnt. I use a hand saw and/or an electric planer.
 
may be we should all turn into multitraders ,seems the way to go ,just saying like,i dont think,ill stick to what i know then i cant be acused of conning folk:mad2: comes to mind:incazzato:
 
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Multi traders eh,putting the country in shame. Nigh on 30 years I've been plastering/tiling,never had a bad word said about me(apart from the wife, well ok and a few other women) been self employed since 95 , never hardly been out of work for more than a week,employ 2lads full time and I'm employing 2plasterers for the next month or 2.
'No job to big no job to small give us a ring and I'll tile thee wall' gonna put that on me van to pee of proper tilers 😉
Did a bit of bricklaying at mine at weekend, not too bad for a beginner
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Or some k rend
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Or a bit of dri lining
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Oh oh and some tiling for you tilers
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Bloody rough and proud, ripping off Lancashire since 95 😉
 
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Forgot to mention,I don't plain doors,I hate joinery with a passion(although with doing a few renters up and a farmhouse in france I have put me hand to it ,still hate it
 
Will do it if needs be, although a lot of jobs I do will have a joiner second fitting after me. Wouldn't see a customer stuck though.
 
Did a bit of bricklaying at mine at weekend, not too bad for a beginner
a bit? looks like your building an extension lol... I have set down a couple of metres of footing for a little wall im going to be putting up I also enjoy trying my hand at other trades mate. :thumbsup:
 
I really don't get this..? just because your a tiler dose that mean you must be perfect in every job in the building trade..? like Bri I've never lost a job cause I don't plain a door, infact most customers don't expect me to as that's a carpenters job.....or one of you multi bodgers jobs...:sofahide:..:lol:

You're missing the point. Cutting down a door or plinth doesn't make you a chippy, re-seating a toilet doesn't make you a plumber, in the same way that being able to stick some tiles behind a basin as a splash back or grout a few square meters of tiles doesn't make you a tiler.

As for losing jobs, I can hand on heart tell you that if I was subbing out part of a job to a tiler that flat out refused to trim a door after he finished, I wouldn't give him the job. Why would I when I would have to send someone else in and incur extra costs to do such a tiny simple job? Now if I already had a chippy on site to trim that door or a plumber to remove that toilet then of course it would fall to them but if they have already finished up, then yes I would expect you to do it. The only time I would still give you the job over another tiler that would do it, is if you're hot, and I mean really hot at your job. I'd want to walk in to that room and cry with how beautiful its been done. Then I would bow down to you and say don't worry I’ll sort that door/plinth/toilet out because you're worth the hassle.


may be we should all turn into multitraders ,seems the way to go ,just saying like,i dont think,ill stick to what i know then i cant be acused of conning folk:mad2: comes to mind:incazzato:


I'm almost sick of defending multi-trades on here but still I’ll go on. I've said many times I started off as a decorator, but the fact is that over the 17 years since I started on the tools maybe only 20% of that has been spent on decorating. I can no longer call myself a decorator, in fact most of my time on the tools is carpentry related but again I wouldn't call myself a carpenter as I'm very proud to call myself a multi-trader. As the fact is I turn out better work in many disciplines than those who profess to have a single trade and call themselves professionals at it. The general acceptance level of most trades in this country is pretty damn poor. Don't try and convince me otherwise as I’ve trailed and employed them. For every 1 or 2 great trademen there are 8 crap ones.

Again as I’ve said on here many times, the only reason I became multi-trades is because of this very thread. The tiler who wouldn’t trim some plinths, the electrician that wouldn't in-fill his chases, the plumber who didn't refix the floor boards he took up (and also skipped half of them because he couldn't remember where he took them up from), the carpet fitter who wouldn't trim doors and left them stacked against the wall... No it's all left to the decorator who as the last one on site takes pity on the homeowner and doesn't ask them to get every single trade back in to finish the last trades job but just gets on with it.

It has been said in this thread a few times that if you get one trade to undertake another’s trade then the customer loses out and ends up with a poor job. That is total bull, the other is true where if you get single trade in to do their little piece, then 90% of the time they will leave something for the next trade to pick up and finish off, only it doesn't get finished off because 'it doesn't come under the next trades remit' and so it gets left again. I see it every day when I walk in to a new customer’s house and see all those odd jobs which were never finished off over the years and just left. They have been short changed every time.

I've no problem in the slightest with somebody sticking to one trade but you better excel at it and become a master at your craft and after 5 years of being on this forum, with all its thousands of members, I can still only count on 2 hands those that are worthy of calling themselves master tilers. There're also many good tilers, great tilers in fact but the overriding majority are jobbing tilers that are 'just' good enough, nothing special but just pull it off to an 'acceptable' enough standard. Isn't that a sad state of affairs? Surely if all you do day in day out is tile, then you should wipe the floor with a multi-trader like me? Shouldn't you make me look like a total novice just playing at the game? But most of you can't. Don't hate me for saying it; hate your fellow tilers that forced people like me to say 'you know what? I can do it better than them' and learnt the trade.

You all must think people like me are a curse to the trade. I'm not. I don't go out actively tagreting tiling jobs, in fact I can count on one hand the 'purely tiling' jobs i've taken on in the last 5 years. No it's always as part of a lager job where tiling, or plastering, or electrical.... makes up a percentage of that job. Most of you cry foul when a HO employs a builder to install their new bathroom, "how can this be??" you scream "Do they not understand??". No in fact they don't, all they want is one point of contact that they can blame if things go wrong or aren't finished off. They don't want to be told "Sorry madam, I don't do that, didn't you know?"... No quite frankly they didn't:mad2:



may be we should all turn into multitraders ,seems the way to go ,just saying like,i dont think,ill stick to what i know then i cant be acused of conning folk:mad2: comes to mind:incazzato:

Tell me Brian that these people got conned...

these people who I decorated their new extension

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these people who I designed and fitted a kitchen for

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Or this house I completely designed and refurbished inside and out including building the decking and installing a garden lighting system for...

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or maybe a bathroom?

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All of that said, I'm glad some of you refuse to undetake the simplest of 'non-trade' related jobs. As if you didn't, I wouldn't get any work


I don't mean to offend anyone and the above is not aimed at anyone in particular, not even you Brian for your comments but just a general rant at the sorry state of affairs.

errrrrrr rant over for now:sofahide:
 
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great jobs on them pics,looks like they ccame strait from a broshure with all the furniture in as well fantastic,well done,doesnt convince me one iota ,ill stick to what i know and do best and that is as i always have done and that is tiling because that is what i am a tiler ,and i would like to think i am one of them you mention a proper tradesman
 
I'll be taking a bathroom door off later, then it'll need trimming 5mm or so. Have I to get a Joiner in, or have I to tackle this myself? With plinths, it depends on each job. If it looks more trouble than its worth, I'll swerve it. Just 1 or 2 straight lengths - I'll tackle them. If however the customer has paid thousands for a brand new kitchen, I always say that I can do it, but I'm not a Joiner. I also mention the slight risk of perhaps F'ing it up and perhaps they'd prefer to get the fitter back, or perhaps DIY, I don't want the risk of having to replace them out of my pocket. 9/10 times customer says no problem.. There's odd-job men and there's doing all the little bits associated with the job. Siliconing, trimming bath panels/doors etc. Some of these opinions are spot-on, some though, must be a wind-up
 

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