Remove plinths for tiling a floor?

[rich83]

no thats minimalist:lol:

 

[Brian the Tile]

:lol::8::lol:

Sorry mate, as my quotes/invoices are fully itemised, it has its own line. I just meant its at the end of every quote next to accessory fitting hell fire at them prices ive been missing out ,think ill get miself a saw and a drill and a plane lol

 

[ian158]

you missed a bit...:lol:

builder had the bright idea of plastering after I'd fitted and tiled..his job..who am I to argue

 

[Brian the Tile]

may be we should all turn into multitraders ,seems the way to go ,just saying like,i dont think,ill stick to what i know then i cant be acused of conning folk:mad2: comes to mind:incazzato:

 

[White Room]

builder had the bright idea of plastering after I'd fitted and tiled..his job..who am I to argue

Hope he's going to mask off....

 

[Houston]

board board

 

[Brian the Tile]

yea coz here's one I bodged last year in Aylesbury...you stay behind that sofa Kilroy !

got to say ,that looks a fantastic job

 

[widler]

Plinths remove ?

Multi traders eh,putting the country in shame. Nigh on 30 years I've been plastering/tiling,never had a bad word said about me(apart from the wife, well ok and a few other women) been self employed since 95 , never hardly been out of work for more than a week,employ 2lads full time and I'm employing 2plasterers for the next month or 2.
'No job to big no job to small give us a ring and I'll tile thee wall' gonna put that on me van to pee of proper tilers
Did a bit of bricklaying at mine at weekend, not too bad for a beginner

Or some k rend

Or a bit of dri lining


Oh oh and some tiling for you tilers

Bloody rough and proud, ripping off Lancashire since 95

 

[widler]

Plinths remove ?

Forgot to mention,I don't plain doors,I hate joinery with a passion(although with doing a few renters up and a farmhouse in france I have put me hand to it ,still hate it

 

[Peter]

Will do it if needs be, although a lot of jobs I do will have a joiner second fitting after me. Wouldn't see a customer stuck though.

 

[ian158]

got to say ,that looks a fantastic job

Impossible..us multitrades are odd job bodgers ill have you know !

 

[ian158]

Hope he's going to mask off....

dunno..it was the builder who asked me to do it before he skimmed the walls...let him get on with it...

 

[Mr Tiler]

:lol::8::lol:

yeh brian I guessed that was what you were reffering too mate lol.

 

[Mr Tiler]

Did a bit of bricklaying at mine at weekend, not too bad for a beginner

a bit? looks like your building an extension lol... I have set down a couple of metres of footing for a little wall im going to be putting up I also enjoy trying my hand at other trades mate.

 

[IHB]

Or some k rend
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Patio doors with a dead man's drop ?:yikes:

 

[Colour Republic]

I really don't get this..? just because your a tiler dose that mean you must be perfect in every job in the building trade..? like Bri I've never lost a job cause I don't plain a door, infact most customers don't expect me to as that's a carpenters job.....or one of you multi bodgers jobs...:sofahide:..:lol:

You're missing the point. Cutting down a door or plinth doesn't make you a chippy, re-seating a toilet doesn't make you a plumber, in the same way that being able to stick some tiles behind a basin as a splash back or grout a few square meters of tiles doesn't make you a tiler.

As for losing jobs, I can hand on heart tell you that if I was subbing out part of a job to a tiler that flat out refused to trim a door after he finished, I wouldn't give him the job. Why would I when I would have to send someone else in and incur extra costs to do such a tiny simple job? Now if I already had a chippy on site to trim that door or a plumber to remove that toilet then of course it would fall to them but if they have already finished up, then yes I would expect you to do it. The only time I would still give you the job over another tiler that would do it, is if you're hot, and I mean really hot at your job. I'd want to walk in to that room and cry with how beautiful its been done. Then I would bow down to you and say don't worry I’ll sort that door/plinth/toilet out because you're worth the hassle.

may be we should all turn into multitraders ,seems the way to go ,just saying like,i dont think,ill stick to what i know then i cant be acused of conning folk:mad2: comes to mind:incazzato:

I'm almost sick of defending multi-trades on here but still I’ll go on. I've said many times I started off as a decorator, but the fact is that over the 17 years since I started on the tools maybe only 20% of that has been spent on decorating. I can no longer call myself a decorator, in fact most of my time on the tools is carpentry related but again I wouldn't call myself a carpenter as I'm very proud to call myself a multi-trader. As the fact is I turn out better work in many disciplines than those who profess to have a single trade and call themselves professionals at it. The general acceptance level of most trades in this country is pretty damn poor. Don't try and convince me otherwise as I’ve trailed and employed them. For every 1 or 2 great trademen there are 8 crap ones.

Again as I’ve said on here many times, the only reason I became multi-trades is because of this very thread. The tiler who wouldn’t trim some plinths, the electrician that wouldn't in-fill his chases, the plumber who didn't refix the floor boards he took up (and also skipped half of them because he couldn't remember where he took them up from), the carpet fitter who wouldn't trim doors and left them stacked against the wall... No it's all left to the decorator who as the last one on site takes pity on the homeowner and doesn't ask them to get every single trade back in to finish the last trades job but just gets on with it.

It has been said in this thread a few times that if you get one trade to undertake another’s trade then the customer loses out and ends up with a poor job. That is total bull, the other is true where if you get single trade in to do their little piece, then 90% of the time they will leave something for the next trade to pick up and finish off, only it doesn't get finished off because 'it doesn't come under the next trades remit' and so it gets left again. I see it every day when I walk in to a new customer’s house and see all those odd jobs which were never finished off over the years and just left. They have been short changed every time.

I've no problem in the slightest with somebody sticking to one trade but you better excel at it and become a master at your craft and after 5 years of being on this forum, with all its thousands of members, I can still only count on 2 hands those that are worthy of calling themselves master tilers. There're also many good tilers, great tilers in fact but the overriding majority are jobbing tilers that are 'just' good enough, nothing special but just pull it off to an 'acceptable' enough standard. Isn't that a sad state of affairs? Surely if all you do day in day out is tile, then you should wipe the floor with a multi-trader like me? Shouldn't you make me look like a total novice just playing at the game? But most of you can't. Don't hate me for saying it; hate your fellow tilers that forced people like me to say 'you know what? I can do it better than them' and learnt the trade.

You all must think people like me are a curse to the trade. I'm not. I don't go out actively tagreting tiling jobs, in fact I can count on one hand the 'purely tiling' jobs i've taken on in the last 5 years. No it's always as part of a lager job where tiling, or plastering, or electrical.... makes up a percentage of that job. Most of you cry foul when a HO employs a builder to install their new bathroom, "how can this be??" you scream "Do they not understand??". No in fact they don't, all they want is one point of contact that they can blame if things go wrong or aren't finished off. They don't want to be told "Sorry madam, I don't do that, didn't you know?"... No quite frankly they didn't:mad2:

may be we should all turn into multitraders ,seems the way to go ,just saying like,i dont think,ill stick to what i know then i cant be acused of conning folk:mad2: comes to mind:incazzato:

Tell me Brian that these people got conned...

these people who I decorated their new extension

these people who I designed and fitted a kitchen for

Or this house I completely designed and refurbished inside and out including building the decking and installing a garden lighting system for...

or maybe a bathroom?

All of that said, I'm glad some of you refuse to undetake the simplest of 'non-trade' related jobs. As if you didn't, I wouldn't get any work


I don't mean to offend anyone and the above is not aimed at anyone in particular, not even you Brian for your comments but just a general rant at the sorry state of affairs.

errrrrrr rant over for now:sofahide:

 

[Brian the Tile]

great jobs on them pics,looks like they ccame strait from a broshure with all the furniture in as well fantastic,well done,doesnt convince me one iota ,ill stick to what i know and do best and that is as i always have done and that is tiling because that is what i am a tiler ,and i would like to think i am one of them you mention a proper tradesman

 

[Martyn Leeds]

I'll be taking a bathroom door off later, then it'll need trimming 5mm or so. Have I to get a Joiner in, or have I to tackle this myself? With plinths, it depends on each job. If it looks more trouble than its worth, I'll swerve it. Just 1 or 2 straight lengths - I'll tackle them. If however the customer has paid thousands for a brand new kitchen, I always say that I can do it, but I'm not a Joiner. I also mention the slight risk of perhaps F'ing it up and perhaps they'd prefer to get the fitter back, or perhaps DIY, I don't want the risk of having to replace them out of my pocket. 9/10 times customer says no problem.. There's odd-job men and there's doing all the little bits associated with the job. Siliconing, trimming bath panels/doors etc. Some of these opinions are spot-on, some though, must be a wind-up

 

[Bubblecraft]

Plinths remove ?

Couldn't have said it any better Rob

 

[Andy Allen]

with all due respect Rob, I've never come across a builder yet that employs plumbers and carpenters yet would still expect me to remove a toilet, basin and refit them and plain a door....some grate work there by the way, and I assume you didn't do it all yourself, you employ subby's..? it's no different to what I do if I do a full refit, I have a plumber, plasterer etc, I organise the work and we all follow each other and everything works fine......only difference is we all quote the work separate and the customer pay's each tradesman......sounds complicated but in reality most of the time it's just me and the plumber as im more than able to prep the walls myself, and would only call the plasterer in if a ceiling needed doing or tiling was only going half height ......I have no problem with multi traders providing they know what there doing...but we do seem to be getting a lot of post on here about bodged up work undertaken by builders/multi traders......and I know theres some bad tilers out there too, but my selling point to a customer has allway's been ...if you want a tiler get a tiler, if you want a plumber get a plumber...etc.. and by the way the plumbers brothers a chippy, and he plains the doors..:smilewinkgrin:.......sorry about no paragraph's blood forums playing up again.....

 

[widler]

Plinths remove ?

Patio doors with a dead man's drop ?:yikes:

That used to be a coal shed, brickie built it up and cut windows out,joiner put a pitched roof on,fit windows ect,slater slated it,electrician did electrics,plumber plumbed it,I plastered it and rendered it,joiner coming back to put a balcony all the way around next week,just so the client does not have to use step ladders any more

 

[Brian the Tile]

At the end of the day ,and i dont care what anybody says, a tiler is a tiler and a plumber a plumber,i served a six year apprenticeship on very low money all them years ago,and even then there were theese courses starting up (learn to be a tiler in three weeks) ,then you would get people off them pathetic courses working along side you expecting the same money,well please tell me anybody out there how can he know as much as a time served tradesman in any trade,its taken me a long time to know the things i know about my trade and i am still learning ,i have no problem with people wanting to do everybody elses job if they feel the need to and dont have a proper trade to there name ,but dont go spouting off at tradesmen who stick to what they know,i dont want to be cutting doors down or plumbing a toilet in or papering someones lounge and mainly back to the post that got side tracked i dont want to be cutting plinths down,not because i cant ,but because i am a TILER and i do what it says on the tin,TILING SPECIALIST, and thats my rant over also

 

[widler]

Plinths remove ?

Oh it can't be assed

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Good night god bless im off to rip someone off being a rough arse cowboy yeeeee hharrrr

 

[Mr Tiler]

I actually agree with brian there... if he chooses to loose money for doing these tasks that's fair enough he shouldn't be slated for it cuz at the end of the day it would come under a chippies job.

 

[mz30]

I'll add something to this, and also address the op yes the plinths should be taken off and usually there is a bit of play which negates the need of cutting them down,however I don't offer that service ,do I lose jobs over it ,well to be honest I quote jobs and usually get them, i am a totally recommendation tiler ,I don't advertise or have cards etc ,I work full time for a company as a tiler and do my own stuff weekends so I really don't have the time to be multi skilling, If I did have time then maybe I would look into buying tools to do said jobs,and I think in my first post on this I did say that if your doin the full refit then doing the extras is par for the course.