Shower enclosure problems

[jay]

Might sound stupid but is the tile polished porcelain

 

[AliGage]

Your fitter didn't seal behind the upright structures of a "shower" enclosure? Wouldn't call him a bathroom fitter then.

Have done what i said in my last post? If so did you spot any water coming through the sealant?

 

[Sedated]

Might sound stupid but is the tile polished porcelain

Not really sure but they are big 300x600 things and a bugger to drill!

 

[Sedated]

Your fitter didn't seal behind the upright structures of a "shower" enclosure? Wouldn't call him a bathroom fitter then.

Have done what i said in my last post? If so did you spot any water coming through the sealant?

I directly pointed shower head at corner blasted away and sure enough the water appeared outside through grout. No water on silicone seal or anywhere else on outside of shower tested with tissue.

 

[Sedated]

Your fitter didn't seal behind the upright structures of a "shower" enclosure? Wouldn't call him a bathroom fitter then.

He does wet rooms as well!!!!!!! thats probably my living room downstairs anytime soon!

 

[jay]

Not really sure but they are big 300x600 things and a bugger to drill!

noticed they are changing color when wet did your tiler seal the tile

 

[Sedated]

No the tiles arnt changing colour when wet they are mottled and a semi sheen, so it probably looks like that. the flash on the camera alters the look every photo. They arnt tiles that need sealing.

 

[Sedated]

So with all things weighed up I think that...
The first time they fit the shower enclosure tthey didnt put the secondary seal around the tray prior to uprights going in, as shown in the picture below (Which is part of the PDF from the bathstore regarding my shower tray!) . Even if they didnt go around all the tray they should have definatly done behind the uprights.

& to make things worse they have put the wall tiles far to close to the shower tray so that the sealant cannot stretch as it should in the small gap behind the uprights.
Its OK on the bit that is exposed inside the shower the tiles to tray as I could put plenty on and overlap tray and tiles. but for behind the uprights I couldnt overlap as much, as the uprights would, and indead probably have, disturbed the silicone there.
Also they "Buttered" the tiles rather than spreading adhesive on the walls so that will leave spacees behind the tiles!
Not looking good is it.
Anyhow thanks for all the replys guys...Appreciated.

 

[Mike]

where is the grout getting wet? between the wall and floor tiles? this joint should be siliconed but that won't be the cause of the problem. where exactly did you concentrate the shower head? and you say there's 1mm of silicon, the bead should be about 5mm covering the 1mm gap under the tiles

 

[kilty55]

has this tray been properly siliconed inside the tray between tray and tiles?

 

[Sedated]

Mike, Yes the gap between the floor tiles and wall tiles should be siliconed but TBH if it was so then i wouldnt see the water leaking out and I'd be oblivious to this!

I sprayed the shower head here

There is only 1mm of gap at the most between the tiles on wall and all around the tray so its hard to get any substantial bits of silicone where the uprights go, as said previously I think that as the gap I have filled behind the uprights was such a small gap the slightest movement has caused the seal to fail. ? I coldnt put a big blob on as the fitter put the u shaped fixing right down to the bottom of the tiles, infact it was resting on the tray.Perhaps the fitter disturbed or scraped the sealant putting the cubical back on?

 

[AliGage]

He does wet rooms as well!!!!!!! thats probably my living room downstairs anytime soon!

Wetrooms as well!? That's slightly worrying!

 

[Mike]

looking at the picture above again is the shower glass inside the channel fixed to the wall? usually there is a chrome section on the end of the glass on the shower enclosure that fits snugly into the wall channel. it doesn't look like that in the picture

 

[AliGage]

I think it is there, it's just the enclosure is pushed right back into it.
See if the water is coming out of the channel on the outside. Where the enclosure sits into the u shapped wall channel.

 

[Sedated]

This is what the shower enclosure is like and how it fits to wall (View from top)

The u shaped wall chanel is hidden with the enclosure.

 

[AliGage]

What shower enclosure is it? Did you say it's from Bathstore?

 

[Sedated]

yes bathstore
http://www.bathstore.com/files/KERRIDGE/51000001095/INSTALL.pdf

 

[AliGage]

Can you take an overall picture of your shower enclosure and one showing the installed shower

 

[Mike]

i've never seen one where the channel fits into the enclosure, always the enclosure into the channel

 

[AliGage]

i've never seen one where the channel fits into the enclosure, always the enclosure into the channel

That was my first thoughts. Don't think i've ever fitted one like that before. But it is bathstore, i've fitted quite a bit of there furniture, that can be quite challenging!

 

[Sedated]

Can you take an overall picture of your shower enclosure and one showing the installed shower

First of all I really appreciate your input but I dont understand your request?
I could take a picture of the installed shower, as it is insalled??

 

[kilty55]

i think he means can you take a picture of the enclosure as a whole and the installed shower as well??

 

[AliGage]

i think he means can you take a picture of the enclosure as a whole and the installed shower as well??

Yep.

From everything that has been said and described over this post i'm not convinced it's coming through the tile round the back and out onto the floor. If your insisting the silicone on the outside of the enclosure is dry when this happens then it may be a plumbing issue from say the shower.

 

[Sedated]

Ali. Im sure it is where I say and not a plumbing issue. It leaks when water is directed onto the corner I say.

 

[kilty55]

all the best sedated hope you fix it.