Shower problem

[Scott]

The tiles that are still up and have come away from the wall are ony being held up by the grout. Pull one of these away and the whole lot will come down.

 

[dscoll]

I know, so what's the solution?

The tiles that are still up and have come away from the wall are ony being held up by the grout. Pull one of these away and the whole lot will come down.

 

[Rich]

There is only 1 solution, rip out and do it properly. You are looking for a quick fix that isnt there.

 

[kilty55]

AHHHH,so this jub has just been done by a builder recently and also badly

if this is the case you are within your rights to refuse any suggesstions he is making to fix this as they are bad ones

take the advice of here and make him start agin at his own cost or take him to court

 

[Scott]

ITs gotta come down im afraid there is no way to make them stick by pouring or injecting adhesive behind them.

 

[dscoll]

No, Kitty. The job was done by a professional tiler , hired by the builder I refer to,about 5 years ago. The builder has returned to fix the job at his own expense, the tiler is not interested

AHHHH,so this jub has just been done by a builder recently and also badly

if this is the case you are within your rights to refuse any suggesstions he is making to fix this as they are bad ones

take the advice of here and make him start agin at his own cost or take him to court

 

[kilty55]

hi ds,kilty will suffice:smilewinkgrin:

if the tiler was sub contracted by the builder its the builders responsibility to fix it,however im not sure how you stand aftert 5 years of it being up

still shouldnt be in the state its in however even after any amount of time i hope you get it sorted mate

 

[DHTiling]

Here kitty kitty,,:lol:

 

[dscoll]

Does anyone have an answer to my other initial question:
Problem 2:
The old tiles are 8mm floor tiles (I know they shoudn't be on the wall but its too late now) and the adhesive is 10mm. Thats 18mm total, which looks suspiciously high. I want to use better gripping adhesive so im looking at nicobond glass tile flexible adhesive ,hopefully it won't crack. Problem is the max recomended thickness is 12mm and the new wall tiles are 5mm. That means i would need 13mm of adhesive, so is it ok to exceed the 12mm max limit by 1mm or would it be better to put on a tile backing board or is there a 3rd way.

 

[Rich]

Haha! Kitty, love it.

I dont know where you stand this far down the line either but pouring any kind of adhesive down the back of the tiles isnt going to do anything. They need taking off and it needs to be done properly whoever pays for it. I hope you get it sorted out :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Polishtradesman]

Whitebeam
It's a gypsum finish on a cement undercoat.
The plaster get very wet when the shower leaked but it is undamaged, therefore it must be waterproof.
I think it's been tanked.

I dont get it. How is it possible that gypsum is waterproof?? or maybe i understood wrong? All wet areas should have been tanked, especcialy in shower . Use flexible sealing compound to make surface waterproof then tile on adhesve class C2. In my opinion gypsum material cant be waterproof and it is very big mistake to tile on such a surface in wet areas

 

[TheTiler]

I reckon your builder originally had a guy fix some porcelain floor tiles using a ready-mixed tub adhesive which was not designed to fix porcelain, nor tiles of that size and weight. The vibration, expansion/drying out of the premature and over-polished gypsum led to a complete and utter classic builders mistake. To use PVA anywhere, and at anytime in a tiling installation is a mistake, but to pour it down a void behind a tile will only result it running down the inch-wide voids in your wall and sticking your kettle to your kitchen work surface (for a day).

 

[kilty55]

:eek6: meow:frown5:

 

[kilty55]

dscol is there any chance of some pics so we can get a better idea of a solution and the problem at all

 

[dscoll]

I know it's not ideal but i've had no better suggestions from anyone on this forum. Yesterday I tried gluing a piece of tile with pva as a test and it stuck solid, so in absence of any better ideas i will have to give it a try.

I reckon your builder originally had a guy fix some porcelain floor tiles using a ready-mixed tub adhesive which was not designed to fix porcelain, nor tiles of that size and weight. The vibration, expansion/drying out of the premature and over-polished gypsum led to a complete and utter classic builders mistake. To use PVA anywhere, and at anytime in a tiling installation is a mistake, but to pour it down a void behind a tile will only result it running down the inch-wide voids in your wall and sticking your kettle to your kitchen work surface (for a day).