Thinkng of calling it a day

[Ric]

best of luck tys, i think you might find things pick up from April onwards but know what u mean about regular money... all the best

 

[tysfoot]

Cheers for the support and guidance guys.

 

[hotburrito]

good luck tysfoot.
in your first post you mentioned being undercut.
im coming across those assholes as well, most of them aint even been on any type of course never mind being time served.
im tiling part-time the now as well in very similar circumstances (2pm finish) and i find it really frustrating. i dont feel that i can mention to customers that i also work part time coz they'll think your one of the "£100-bob-a-jobs" ripping them off, and when you turn up at 3 they think your up to something. i make out that im squeezing them in between jobs but its really not professional and puts you in a bad light anyway. catch 22
im extremely tired all the time as well. my day job is pretty physical and now and again i cant be arsed going to the tiling job in the afternoon (ive never let anyone down btw) that tends to put your mood on a pretty short fuse when the tiles start acting up!
im still enjoying the tiling though! its much better than my "regular job".i only need to make around £180 a week once i go full time which should be achievable..............? :shifty: :lol:

 

[brian c]

all the best m8.

 

[brummie tiler]

good luck from me bud.

 

[tileman111]

hey if you decide to stick at it i have plenty work in and around manchester.

 

[tysfoot]

I cat put it better myself mate. Its a hard game to get into

good luck tysfoot.
in your first post you mentioned being undercut.
im coming across those assholes as well, most of them aint even been on any type of course never mind being time served.
im tiling part-time the now as well in very similar circumstances (2pm finish) and i find it really frustrating. i dont feel that i can mention to customers that i also work part time coz they'll think your one of the "£100-bob-a-jobs" ripping them off, and when you turn up at 3 they think your up to something. i make out that im squeezing them in between jobs but its really not professional and puts you in a bad light anyway. catch 22
im extremely tired all the time as well. my day job is pretty physical and now and again i cant be arsed going to the tiling job in the afternoon (ive never let anyone down btw) that tends to put your mood on a pretty short fuse when the tiles start acting up!
im still enjoying the tiling though! its much better than my "regular job".i only need to make around £180 a week once i go full time which should be achievable..............? :shifty: :lol:

 

[CLAYS TILES]

good luck wot ever u decide m8,just remember we're here 4 u!!!!

don't go to far away!

 

[tysfoot]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Will everyone stop being so nice.

Your all making me think im doing the wrong thing.

Finished what i thought would be my last ever job today. Hated everything about it and everything went wrong. So at the end of the day took a step back and thought actually ive done a good job. got an extra £100 tip. and i felt good. but the only thing ive felt s**t all week.

Maybe ive been on my period or something but iam stll in a hard predicament about doing both jobs

:mad2: :mad2:
----
Got an idea. there must be 100's of members in here now. Everyone in the forum set up a direct debit for £1 a weekto my bank accont then ill have enough money coming in to quid my day job and do tiling full time

What do you think :joker:

 

[CLAYS TILES]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Will everyone stop being so nice.

Your all making me think im doing the wrong thing.

Finished what i thought would be my last ever job today. Hated everything about it and everything went wrong. So at the end of the day took a step back and thought actually ive done a good job. got an extra £100 tip. and i felt good. but the only thing ive felt s**t all week.

Maybe ive been on my period or something but iam stll in a hard predicament about doing both jobs

:mad2: :mad2:
----
Got an idea. there must be 100's of members in here now. Everyone in the forum set up a direct debit for £1 a weekto my bank accont then ill have enough money coming in to quid my day job and do tiling full time

What do you think :joker:

£100 TIP!!:huh2: DO THEY NEED ANYMORE WORK???:lol:

 

[tysfoot]

it was a job for a freind. took a few days longe than expected. they know i hada nightmare of a job

 

[enduro]

tysfoot why dont you set up a tiling training centre in your garage...

 

[sibs]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Will everyone stop being so nice.

Your all making me think im doing the wrong thing.

Finished what i thought would be my last ever job today. Hated everything about it and everything went wrong. So at the end of the day took a step back and thought actually ive done a good job. got an extra £100 tip. and i felt good. but the only thing ive felt s**t all week.

Maybe ive been on my period or something but iam stll in a hard predicament about doing both jobs

:mad2: :mad2:
----
Got an idea. there must be 100's of members in here now. Everyone in the forum set up a direct debit for £1 a weekto my bank accont then ill have enough money coming in to quid my day job and do tiling full time

What do you think :joker:

Hey we could do a forum pyramid that way every member will be quids in at some point :hurray: :lol:

Tys don't you dare go anywhere we'd all miss you too much!
I've signed on with a driving agency today as am in the same boat as you. Not the best paid but I can work it around my tiling - so when I haven't got any tiling I can drive (class 2) and when I have work I just tell them I'm not available so its ideal from that aspect.

 

[robbo]

Don't sell ya tools m8 even if you do wanna give it up cause 6 months down the road again you might fancy doing a bit.
Possibly take a fulltime job elsewhere and do what ever tiling comes your way if you can fit it in, you can chose what and when ya do it with out the money worries of being self-employed.
Just an idea...

 

[aejrd]

hi there i know wot u mean i see a new van evry time am out ..never heard of these people they must b fresh off a course ,went to price a job a couple o weeks ago 15mtr b/room bloke nearly fainted wen i said £300..said he had been quoted £120 how can u make a living on that ? i still got the job tho but i had 2 go down 2 £220 coz he said the other bloke didnt sound very confident.last year i wudnt of offered 2 do it 4 any less but its so quiet got no choice!!!!!!!

 

[tysfoot]

thats so bad mate. that one is just a case of someone coming of a course and wanting the job so badly that he is prepard to work for next to nothing to get the job. Thats the problem i think now, thats why i worry.
There are 3 tiling schools in manchester that seem to be full every week so within 5 years how many people would want to tile or know how to tile

 

[hotburrito]

hi there i know wot u mean i see a new van evry time am out ..never heard of these people they must b fresh off a course ,went to price a job a couple o weeks ago 15mtr b/room bloke nearly fainted wen i said £300..said he had been quoted £120 how can u make a living on that ? i still got the job tho but i had 2 go down 2 £220 coz he said the other bloke didnt sound very confident.last year i wudnt of offered 2 do it 4 any less but its so quiet got no choice!!!!!!!

how fkn annoying is that :mad2: :furious3:

 

[graham31]

Hi
i've been reading this forum 4 a while now and toying with the idea about going on a tiling course 1of the main reasons i haven't took the jump is a topic like this.I'm of the thinking that their are more and more people taking these courses making work harder to get and driving down the prices of jobs.

 

[Dirrty]

Hi
i've been reading this forum 4 a while now and toying with the idea about going on a tiling course 1of the main reasons i haven't took the jump is a topic like this.I'm of the thinking that their are more and more people taking these courses making work harder to get and driving down the prices of jobs.

Graham it's called market forces, and you can't control it, so don't worry about it! I used to have a chain of fitted kitchen shops. When we started the company there were plenty of kitchen companies already, not to mention the sheds and kitchen fitters dealing from home, but we still managed to grow the company massively and quickly. We didn't do it by trying to be cheaper than that lot, we did things they didn't or wouldn't do, and sold our fitting expertise and knowledge. If you try and compete purely on price I guarantee you will lose ( there is ALWAYS someone cheaper than you! ), and ALL markets already have compettitors alredy working them, so don't let that put you off.

Jim

 

[tiler burden]

so what happened dirrty??? where did it all go wrong....

hi tysfoot,

if i were you, i would call it a day and get a job. your heart doesnt seem in it and thats not a bad thing or a quitting thing, its just not for you. there is a hard year or two ahead with regards to the credit crunch (and this is serious) so the housing market will slow down, loans will become harder to get and the building game in general will be hit hard. thats a fact, not my opinion and dont let any tiler tell you any different.

if you are established like dave and a few of the other guys on here then they will be in a much better position but, prices will come down due to the influx of cheaper labour, tiling courses churning out hundreds per week and the state of the economy.

if you loved tiling and it was your main ambition then id say stick it out, produce quality work and professional behaviour and then you'd stand a chance but anything else is destined to fail. your attitude needs to be right to run a business.

your still are young and to be honest, theres other ways to make good money so dont let delussion stand in the way of common sense. this advice is aimed at you and you solely based on your thread. if you are running out of money and you have a family and your not that sold on tiling then get out now, cut your loses and onwards and upwards :0)

all the best either way..knowing you tysfoot, you'll probably post up tomorrow and say you've decided to carry on due to a massive contract, so write down all the fores and againsts of tiling and if its 60/40 against then call it a day, that way you know its been a calculated decision and not an emotional one...

 

[LM Ceramics]

im starting to think now that with all these tiling courses aorund now where going to get ram sacked with loads of course tilers or people who want to do their own tiling which is good for them bad for us i did a quote last week on a job it was a kitchen floor 10 sqm2 i said £250 they said there was another tiler who said £130 thats barely over £10 per m2 which is ridiculious i asked who the tiler was showed me the car it said pts on it another course tiler so i said fair enough ring me if anything goes wrong

 

[tysfoot]

exactly another example. just gonna keep tiling as a side line. if i feel it picks up and the industry picks up i think about tiling full time.

I do like tiling its just i had a bad job last job and with no calls coming though i was thinking "whats the point". it was just a bad week

 

[Dan]

I wish you all the best whatever route you take. Protilers is right, you just need one good tile store to get your work in. If you come recommended from the store you'll have a good chance you'll get the job no matter what the price (within reason).

If you do open a club, let me know, you should see me on the pole. 😀

 

[Dirrty]

so what happened dirrty??? where did it all go wrong....

hi tysfoot,

if i were you, i would call it a day and get a job. your heart doesnt seem in it and thats not a bad thing or a quitting thing, its just not for you. there is a hard year or two ahead with regards to the credit crunch (and this is serious) so the housing market will slow down, loans will become harder to get and the building game in general will be hit hard. thats a fact, not my opinion and dont let any tiler tell you any different.

if you are established like dave and a few of the other guys on here then they will be in a much better position but, prices will come down due to the influx of cheaper labour, tiling courses churning out hundreds per week and the state of the economy.

if you loved tiling and it was your main ambition then id say stick it out, produce quality work and professional behaviour and then you'd stand a chance but anything else is destined to fail. your attitude needs to be right to run a business.

your still are young and to be honest, theres other ways to make good money so dont let delussion stand in the way of common sense. this advice is aimed at you and you solely based on your thread. if you are running out of money and you have a family and your not that sold on tiling then get out now, cut your loses and onwards and upwards :0)

all the best either way..knowing you tysfoot, you'll probably post up tomorrow and say you've decided to carry on due to a massive contract, so write down all the fores and againsts of tiling and if its 60/40 against then call it a day, that way you know its been a calculated decision and not an emotional one...

Sorry???.... The kitchen business didn't go wrong, I sold out to my partner for a six figure sum. Did I detect a note of sarcasm in your question tiler burden, or was I just being paranoid?

Jim

 

[tiler burden]

no sarcasm jim, i was just curious thats all :0)

all the best with your tiling business
ed

 

[MICK the Tiler]

Best of luck Tysfoot in what ever you choose to do.....................I sincerly hope you can continue to contribute to these forums as I'v learnt plenty from you guy/gals over there.

As a sidenote..................... watched a recent building and constuction documentry about building in the UK and it concluded that there will be the need to build more than 1 million new homes in the next 10 years to cope with population growth.

So Guys/Gals keep the surfboards handy the bigger waves will soon roll in.

 

[Ric]

Best of luck Tysfoot in what ever you choose to do.....................I sincerly hope you can continue to contribute to these forums as I'v learnt plenty from you guy/gals over there.

As a sidenote..................... watched a recent building and constuction documentry about building in the UK and it concluded that there will be the need to build more than 1 million new homes in the next 10 years to cope with population growth.

So Guys/Gals keep the surfboards handy the bigger waves will soon roll in.

nae surfboards Mick just overcoats, snowing in uk today. can i have a job in Aus? :lol:

 

[Daywalker]

Hi Tys, i think a lot of people consider about jacking it in when times get tough etc.
any thoughts about what you might want to instead? Any way Good Luck and do keep the tools for those weekend jobs.

 

[Dirrty]

no sarcasm jim, i was just curious thats all :0)

all the best with your tiling business
ed

When I sold the business Ed I had a couple of years off and used part of the money to make sure my ex-wife and four kids were ok, then I bought into a franchise ( an online mobile tyre business )....... big mistake......I went down with debts of £120,000. I stopped crying after about six months lol, and now I have to start again......ho hum....

Jim

 

[tiler burden]

you'll bounce back, no worries jim!!

you obviously know what you are doing in business so you will do it. anyone can make a mistake, its how you react thats important. you win some , you lose some, but neither are actually important. that was then and this is now hey!!
anyway with 4 kids to motivate you, then you cant go wrong..;0)

all the best
ed

 

[busyalready]

I Know What Its Like When Jobs Take Longer Than Expected. Not Having A Problem Getting The Work But Am Obviously Too Cheap. I Have Had No Breaks In My Work Schedule For 5 Months Now And All My Work Is Coming Via Recommendation. The Thing Is, I Have Been Working For The Last 3 Months Mainly With Porcelain Which Has Usually All Had To Be Cut With The Wet Saw. It Takes Ages And Is Also Very Tiring As They Are Usually Large Format And Are Going On Walls And Floors And Obviously I Am Using Cement Based Adhesives Which Are More Expensive Than The Tub Stuff And You Have To Mix It Yourself. I Am On My 9th Day Doing 30 Square Metres On Walls And Floors With Window And Door Framing With Metal Trim, Mosaic Borders And Mosaic Panel Inlay Inlay And Have Had To Drill And Cut Holes Everywhere Dril Drilling Holes Everywhere For Pipes Etc. I Am Going To Make Crap Money On This Job And Should Have Quoted Much More Than I Did (£700.00) All This Has Left Me Pondering Whether I Want To Do This For The Rest Of My Working Life. I Suppose I Should Be Grateful As I Am Kept Busy. Incidentally I Am The Only Female Tiler That I Knowof In My Area And Maybe Shouldn't Be Tackling Such Heavy Jobs But I Hate To Turn Down Work As You Never Know When You Might Hit A Quiet Spell.