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karlm98

19mm ply sound great but how many customers agree to that sort of height along with the adhesive and a 9mm tile thats 31mm! talk about a step..lol
sounds like old warped floor joists and loose floor boards, if there is too much deflection 19mm would not really fix that issue only beefing up the floor joists and securing the boards or even replacing with 18 or even 22mm glued n screwed boards i guess thats the time to call the joiners.
ditra over exterior grade 18/22mm chipboard see the ditra link Schlüter-DITRA - Schlüter-Systems this would keep the transition to a minimum, you could always use hardibacker 500 screwed 200mm and use construction glue to make sure movement is kept to a min.
dot n dab are you sure the guy is not a plasterer? no tiler should have that in their arsenal well maybe if you are slapping 2inch marble flagging down..lol and are using sand n cement hahaha also the guy may have not primed the wood with SBR or a suitable primer, could have been damp ply or substandard ply? in the USA ply is not a substrate of choice and after trying to use it i felt the same the quality was absolute REMOVED, couldn't find marine ply only pressure treated ply and that felt greasy well to me at least..lol

oh on a side note why is Hardibacker in the uk smaller in dimention and more expensive than the US version? 3 x 5ft $12 a sheet compared to 800 x 1200 £16 upwards? sounds like we brits always manged to be ripped off!
 
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SandyFloor

Is there a right way to spot fix..?
I believe there is. If you place multiple very small even spots frequently over the back of the tile carefully calculating the tile will have a high even contact when fixed.
There is a tool available which will do the same job much quicker and evenly....I think it's called a serrated trowel :smilewinkgrin:
 
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karlm98

cant beat the British sense of humour, my post was about bad floor joist and reinforcing the joist then using 18/22mm boards glued and screwed the boards being exterior(waterproofed)grade then using Ditra then tile along with the correct adhesive and grout.
also dot n dab is not something tilers should do with tiles as mentioned before thats the reason we use notch, serrated,jagged, U trowels, if i were putting plaster board up i would be using the dot n dab method. talk about shovels n taking yer pick..lol jeez
 
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mikethetile

19mm ply sound great but how many customers agree to that sort of height along with the adhesive and a 9mm tile thats 31mm! talk about a step..lol
sounds like old warped floor joists and loose floor boards, if there is too much deflection 19mm would not really fix that issue only beefing up the floor joists and securing the boards or even replacing with 18 or even 22mm glued n screwed boards i guess thats the time to call the joiners.
ditra over exterior grade 18/22mm chipboard see the ditra link Schlüter-DITRA - Schlüter-Systems this would keep the transition to a minimum, you could always use hardibacker 500 screwed 200mm and use construction glue to make sure movement is kept to a min.
dot n dab are you sure the guy is not a plasterer? no tiler should have that in their arsenal well maybe if you are slapping 2inch marble flagging down..lol and are using sand n cement hahaha also the guy may have not primed the wood with SBR or a suitable primer, could have been damp ply or substandard ply? in the USA ply is not a substrate of choice and after trying to use it i felt the same the quality was absolute REMOVED, couldn't find marine ply only pressure treated ply and that felt greasy well to me at least..lol

oh on a side note why is Hardibacker in the uk smaller in dimention and more expensive than the US version? 3 x 5ft $12 a sheet compared to 800 x 1200 £16 upwards? sounds like we brits always manged to be ripped off!

cant find any reference to plasterboard
 
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mikethetile

true plasterboard would be a bad idea on any floor thats why i didn't mention it, however my pun was dot n dabbing floor tiles leads me to believe the guy could have been a plasterer(or drywall technician) that took on a tile job...much pun intended..

I know what you meant Karl

some of the best tilers we have on here started as plasterers
 
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karlm98

Mike i knew you were leading me up the garden path..lol sometimes it is harder to put into writing what you are thinking and sometimes doesn't come out right:yikes:, i know that a lot of tilers are from other trades i think we are a poor 2nd to the painting industry cos most people think they can paint..its a bit harder for the average punter to pick up tiling .
as a side line in the US i worked for my friend, he has a painting co and there is definitely a skill involved, he had to tile on the odd occasion to keep the money coming in but he told me he will never do it again as it is a bit harder on the body than painting..my knees n back agree.
 
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DHTiling

oh on a side note why is Hardibacker in the uk smaller in dimention and more expensive than the US version? 3 x 5ft $12 a sheet compared to 800 x 1200 £16 upwards? sounds like we brits always manged to be ripped off!

You can get 1500x900 sheets in the uk.. the size you stated are a topps size... CTD and a few others sell the bigger boards..
 

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