Tiler has made mistakes - Advice required

[bugs183]

I do agree with everyone in the principle of the tiler being able to correct the job, but on this particular one, how can he rectify his bad setting out, you can't.

 

[dannyboy1066]

the other bathroom hasnt been paid for though

 

[DHTiling]

BS5385 does say it is possible to tile to a painted surface , if it is deemed to be suitable and capable of taking the tiled installation ... so if the paint is not flaking and is well adhered , then it will take those size tiles in the pics..

Only the tiler can take the decision as to whether it is suitable at face value ...

Sometime painted plaster surfaces are encountered. Hard gloss paint if well bonded is usually a satisfactory base for tiling, but any paint showing signs of flaking should be removed. Emulsion paint or distempers can break down after tiling and must be removed mechanically prior to tiling. The surface to receive the tiles must be clean, sound and dry.

 

[CJ]

:wacko: Iffy.

No payment at all?? And you want the guy to finish off the tiling that your not happy with.

 

[tonyfaestoney]

Guys, I don't want him to finish...he can't! As has been said the only way to fix properly is to take all off and start again. I am asking him to put in the remaining tiles so my family can use the room until we get a workable fix whether that is adjusting ceiling and window or full re-tile. Either way it is going to cost me £100's but more importantly to me is the time and inconvenience which you don't seem to appreciate. So should I pay him and be out of pocket, I don't think so somehow.

 

[charlie1]

I don't see anything that can't be rectified given some time, ramic has given the best solutions so far..... Or remove top rou, create smaller border to tonies preferance, then cut in top row, a decorative border could also be done around window.... There you go, tiled bathroom with a bespoke border!

 

[tonyfaestoney]

The tiler wants no payment, his decision as I say. I am asking him to put in the remaining tiles round the window and 2 layers on one of walls. I can then get everything plumbed in and usable. I still have the gaps at ceiling and window but my family can at least use the room.

If he is willing to out right at his expense then I am more than happy for this to happen. He has said he does not have the time to do this anymore, He was due to come on thursday to put in remaing tiles and grout on Friday. He has agreed to come back and do this.

How would you guys feel if it was your bathroom? Or if somebody laid floors for you and left a gap leading into 3 walls? Start again I would imagine? In this case he does not have the time to do that so I am simply saying make it good to get the plumbing in and we can use the room.

Do you seriously think I am being unreasonable having waited 3 months and looking at a further 3 months?

The first bathroom has grout missing in corners around the sink vanity unit. The grouting at ceiling level was not good and the plumber actually filled this today with white silicon to try and cover this up. If you want I can post photos of this bathroom too. In addition and I was wrong on the paint bit and may be wrong on this too but he has tiles hard to the ceiling in first bathroom and one wall in second. Somebody did say this should not happen to allow for movement, would this be correct?

I wonder how many of you would be so keen to pay out if the shoe were on the other foot and it was a different trade we were talking about.

As I say he is a really nice guy and I feel bad about this. I know he genuinely feels bad also but it is clear that he is not as experienced as you would expect from a tiler.

 

[John Benton]

The tiler wants no payment, his decision as I say. I am asking him to put in the remaining tiles round the window and 2 layers on one of walls. I can then get everything plumbed in and usable. I still have the gaps at ceiling and window but my family can at least use the room.

If he is willing to out right at his expense then I am more than happy for this to happen. He has said he does not have the time to do this anymore, He was due to come on thursday to put in remaing tiles and grout on Friday. He has agreed to come back and do this.

How would you guys feel if it was your bathroom? Or if somebody laid floors for you and left a gap leading into 3 walls? Start again I would imagine? In this case he does not have the time to do that so I am simply saying make it good to get the plumbing in and we can use the room.



Do you seriously think I am being unreasonable having waited 3 months and looking at a further 3 months?

The first bathroom has grout missing in corners around the sink vanity unit. The grouting at ceiling level was not good and the plumber actually filled this today with white silicon to try and cover this up. If you want I can post photos of this bathroom too. In addition and I was wrong on the paint bit and may be wrong on this too but he has tiles hard to the ceiling in first bathroom and one wall in second. Somebody did say this should not happen to allow for movement, would this be correct?

I wonder how many of you would be so keen to pay out if the shoe were on the other foot and it was a different trade we were talking about.

As I say he is a really nice guy and I feel bad about this. I know he genuinely feels bad also but it is clear that he is not as experienced as you would expect from a tiler.

Because of the problems you have listed in the 1st bathroom, can I ask why you let him do the 2nd one. Surely the clue was in the 1st one, not to let him do any more work.

 

[Andy Tiler]

The tiler wants no payment, his decision as I say. I am asking him to put in the remaining tiles round the window and 2 layers on one of walls. I can then get everything plumbed in and usable. I still have the gaps at ceiling and window but my family can at least use the room.

If he is willing to out right at his expense then I am more than happy for this to happen. He has said he does not have the time to do this anymore, He was due to come on thursday to put in remaing tiles and grout on Friday. He has agreed to come back and do this.

How would you guys feel if it was your bathroom? Or if somebody laid floors for you and left a gap leading into 3 walls? Start again I would imagine? In this case he does not have the time to do that so I am simply saying make it good to get the plumbing in and we can use the room.

Do you seriously think I am being unreasonable having waited 3 months and looking at a further 3 months?

The first bathroom has grout missing in corners around the sink vanity unit. The grouting at ceiling level was not good and the plumber actually filled this today with white silicon to try and cover this up. If you want I can post photos of this bathroom too. In addition and I was wrong on the paint bit and may be wrong on this too but he has tiles hard to the ceiling in first bathroom and one wall in second. Somebody did say this should not happen to allow for movement, would this be correct?

I wonder how many of you would be so keen to pay out if the shoe were on the other foot and it was a different trade we were talking about.

As I say he is a really nice guy and I feel bad about this. I know he genuinely feels bad also but it is clear that he is not as experienced as you would expect from a tiler.

If it was me tony I would of stopped him after the first bathroom if I wasn't happy with the standard of work..but it's done now. and I wouldn't want it bodged up with silly borders.but it's hard to say without seeing the job..

 

[tonyfaestoney]

Woah woah Dannyboy that was my choice lol. Thought the red & white would go well with the white vanity units. I have put a black rubber tile floor in and black towels will be hung on the large towel rail when fitted. I thought that was a pretty good look but maybe I am wrong. The stuff I have bought is all good quality and contemporary so this maybe further complicates possble solutions like coving etc.

It is unfortunate and I am not angry at tiler, he freely admits he is in the wrong and does not want to charge for job. We just want some time to ourselves in our new house, tradesmen free. if he is happy to tile the remaining tiles until we are prepared timewise to go through this again, then fine.

I do think the border tile arrangement is something we could look at though.

 

[DHTiling]

more to the point who chose the red tiles

Not really called for is that comment... it is about the tiling and not customers tile choice..

 

[dannyboy1066]

only kidding

 

[dannyboy1066]

i would def overboard the ceiling

 

[dannyboy1066]

maybe some slimline modern architrave around the window

 

[DHTiling]

You could picture frame the window in the same tile... then cut field tiles to this feature....

A bit like this but obviously same tiles as you have up now...