Tiles bowing after fitment

[magga]

Yeah, the wedges do really hurt your hands though, but you can get pliers for the Raimondi ones, which is a huge plus imo. I also like the fact that the Raimondi ones come in 3mm thickness, which is what spacing I use most commonly.

 

[Old Mod]

It's the use of the pliers that prevents the wedges pushing the tile away.
If you want the best system in the uk market, then get the original Rubi levelling straps.
Pull down from the top, no sideways movement, and plenty of feedback through the pliers.
They've also dropped in price recently, because of all the competition no doubt!

 

[magga]

The Rubi ones look very similar to the Genesis ones, apart from the shape of the top part.

 

[Old Mod]

The Rubi ones look very similar to the Genesis ones, apart from the shape of the top part.

Apparently very similar, but not tried them.
I do have a good friend who swears by them.

 

[Tile Shop]

Apparently very similar, but not tried them.
I do have a good friend who swears by them.

I swore AT them. Too easy to over tighten them. But then again, if i didn't put too much adhesive under that tile, prolly woulda been ok.

Anyway, who took the thread off topic?

 

[magga]

That'd be me, sorry!

 

[Old Mod]

Not me!

 

[LM]

I've tried 4 systems. The Australian ATR type, don't like them, too much time taken to construct them before use and they go in the corner of tiles so you can't see if the tiles are aligned perfectly, also not very strong, they break of premeturley far too often. I tried both the 2&3mm sizes and also the T type.
The Lash system I found to be too crude and bulky in comparison to similar type systems.
The Ramondi RLS I tried last week for the first time, couldn't wait to try them as so many members use them. They are very well made, good quality, but they do tend to move the adjoining tile and you constantly have to check that all is in line.
The system I've used the most is the Genesis, both versions. In my opinion this design of clamping tiles is much superior because there's no lateral pressure only vertical therefore no moving of adjoining tiles what so ever, a much more accurate way of working plus there's no tile depth limit restricting you and if your working with say a slate tile for example they can still work. My criticism of this system is that it's not quite as well made as the Ramondi system, the teeth on the pliers do wear out after a while and on the smaller top caps you will get small wastage when breaking them out the next day.
I've yet to try the Rubi system, but as it's the same technique as the Genesis system I'm sure it will be an excellent product, therefore for me it would come down to price and availability.
I'll post a pic of a floor I did using the RLS and the Genesis system together to see how the preformed in exactly the same conditions and tiles.

 

[LM]

 

[WetSaw]

I spotted the missing clip, where's my prize?

 

[Dan]

Me too I want second place!

 

[LM]

Ok ok, it snapped off while I was tightening it The tiles were level anyway so it was fine without it

 

[Old Mod]

Ok ok, it snapped off while I was tightening it The tiles were level anyway so it was fine without it

I know you're from Ireland Lee, but I thought 'Irish Blarney' was an old wives tale.
Reading that, obviously not then!

 

[Italy]

I've tried 4 systems. The Australian ATR type, don't like them, too much time taken to construct them before use and they go in the corner of tiles so you can't see if the tiles are aligned perfectly, also not very strong, they break of premeturley far too often. I tried both the 2&3mm sizes and also the T type.
The Lash system I found to be too crude and bulky in comparison to similar type systems.
The Ramondi RLS I tried last week for the first time, couldn't wait to try them as so many members use them. They are very well made, good quality, but they do tend to move the adjoining tile and you constantly have to check that all is in line.
The system I've used the most is the Genesis, both versions. In my opinion this design of clamping tiles is much superior because there's no lateral pressure only vertical therefore no moving of adjoining tiles what so ever, a much more accurate way of working plus there's no tile depth limit restricting you and if your working with say a slate tile for example they can still work. My criticism of this system is that it's not quite as well made as the Ramondi system, the teeth on the pliers do wear out after a while and on the smaller top caps you will get small wastage when breaking them out the next day.
I've yet to try the Rubi system, but as it's the same technique as the Genesis system I'm sure it will be an excellent product, therefore for me it would come down to price and availability.
I'll post a pic of a floor I did using the RLS and the Genesis system together to see how the preformed in exactly the same conditions and tiles.

ouch,
They are very well made, good quality, but they do tend to move the adjoining tile and you constantly have to check that all is in line.........
if you are not capable, it is logical that move.
You used the crosses?
how many mm?
the pliers, pulled in spurts, or sharp blow?
how many questions ....

 

[LM]

ouch,
They are very well made, good quality, but they do tend to move the adjoining tile and you constantly have to check that all is in line.........
if you are not capable, it is logical that move.
You used the crosses?
how many mm?
the pliers, pulled in spurts, or sharp blow?
how many questions ....

I tried the starter kit RA180KIT100
So it wasn't the crosses, it was the 1.5mm clips.
I found that one gentle squeeze of the pliers, which I had adjusted the stop depth on so as to not snap the clip, worked best for me, less jerking of the tile.
Have you tried the Genesis or Rubi type system Antonio?

 

[Italy]

I tried the starter kit RA180KIT100
So it wasn't the crosses, it was the 1.5mm clips.
I found that one gentle squeeze of the pliers, which I had adjusted the stop depth on so as to not snap the clip, worked best for me, less jerking of the tile.
Have you tried the Genesis or Rubi type system Antonio?

Have you tried the Genesis or Rubi type system Antonio? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
no compry lee

 

[Italy]

You used the cross, from 2 mm !!!!!!!
what the reason, why the are moving

 

[LM]

Have you tried the Genesis or Rubi type system Antonio? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
no compry lee

You used the cross, from 2 mm !!!!!!!
what the reason, why the are moving

I used the standard 1.5mm and as you apply pressure through the pliers there is vertical movement, but also lateral pressure through the mechanics of the wedge sliding under the clip and through that friction sometimes the adjoining tile moves out of position.
Antonio I think if you tried either the Rubi or Genesis systems a man of your talent would appreciate the difference

 

[Italy]

I used the standard 1.5mm and as you apply pressure through the pliers there is vertical movement, but also lateral pressure through the mechanics of the wedge sliding under the clip and through that friction sometimes the adjoining tile moves out of position.
Antonio I think if you tried either the Rubi or Genesis systems a man of your talent would appreciate the difference

lateral movement is caused by the spacer of 2 mm, you have placed. +++++
rubi genesis and various crap. I do not hear, I'm deaf.
They cost much less raimondi in italy. that's enough, because my blood pressure rises

 

[LM]

lateral movement is caused by the spacer of 2 mm, you have placed. +++++
rubi genesis and various crap. I do not hear, I'm deaf.
They cost much less raimondi in italy. that's enough, because my blood pressure rises

The clip I used was 1.5mm, I'm no expert. Are they much different than the 2mm? I don't know, if so what have Ramondi done wrong
Are you a stakeholder in Ramondi lol, your loyalty to them is frightening
But you still have to answer my question, have you tried any of these other two before?

 

[Italy]

I tried these and 3 versions type raimondi