update of my bathroom retiled after last mess

[sparkle333]

my last thread was closed due to some members arguing so ive started a new one with an update on my bathroom re tiled after the lady tiler made such a mess, and sadly the new isn't very good. I was recommended this tiler from a manager of a tile shop I know and I was expecting brilliant job done as he, told me how good he was and how happy I will be instead its a mess and only a bit better than the other womans tiling, but he kept asking me for payment every few days so stupid me paid him apart from £70 outstanding, its cost me 3 times more and im not happy at all, hes supposed to be coming back on weds to do tiny finishing touches but hes unaware how long the snag list is. ive got 2 broken floor tiles already after a wk, cos hes done exactly the same as other tiler where the sub floor stops at bath and door hes not but anything under edge of tiles and 2 have snapped. the tile upside down on my window, he had propped up for 3 days and when he removed prop , within 2 mins it fell in my bath scratching it in 6 places and too bad to get out myself , hes denied tile did that , my the painter has told me hes brother is a bath repair guy and will try and do it, he knelt by bath to look with padded knees and tile cracked hence 1 break , I feel gutted that its not right yet again. some of the probs are below

ive got 2 tiles in my shower facin directly at me with tiny chipped corners which r goin to bug me

hes not siloconed around the shower or sink

hes left the floor tiles edges not packed under hence tiles are breaking and I warned him other tiler had done that and hes done the same

tiles at ceiling all diff heights

hes not grouted behind my door

hes left a raw edge of tile on my cupboard exposed

window all packed with uneven grout at back as cut too short and none of the lines follow the wall

the edgings are all left sharp grr

hasn't put floor tile behind my loo

some of the grouting and Silicon hasn't covered the edges of tiles where is cut unevenly

ive got some lips on tiles , some on a new stud wall so no excuses for that wall

hes left tiles covered in smeared grout and hasn't cleaned them after 1 sponge down after he grouted and told me I had to do it

I feel sick to stomach over all this, I cant see how hes going to manage to sort all this out at all, no way I can pay 3rd time to have this redone if he refuses to do it. some would be nightmare to re do, some im going to have to put up with, I cant have the chipped tiles replaced as my showers in place now and its on a stud wall that will come apart as it did last time. im really really upset and annoyed, he wont do anything I ask, I pointed out some of the top tiles have steps where they are different heights and asked for him to re do, hes refused and said will Silicon over and I wont notice, im not too happy about this

 

[White Room]

Its obviously a poor job by someone who doesnt know the job nor does he seem to care. I rather think that Sparkle will have to put up with it or pay someone else to do it right.

As that is the second time, third time lucky...thats anyones guess.

 

[AliGage]

If I've missed anything im sorry but I've jumped from the start of page 3. Im sorry but once bitten and all that Im struggling to have too much sympathy.

 

[sparkle333]

that's a bit out of order alicage , I don't know anything about tiling and looking for advice , I don't need your sympathy thx, looks like ive been had again, as I explained earlier ive got lots of serious personal things going on so maybe im not being as watchful as i should have been and he promised me he would do a good job and I would be very pleased, I haven't got time to be watching every workmans move , I didn't think this would happen again after being recommended him from a tile shop, I stupidly thought he would be good at his job

 

[Dougs Third Go]

that's a bit out of order alicage , I don't know anything about tiling and looking for advice , I don't need your sympathy thx, looks like ive been had again, as I explained earlier ive got lots of serious personal things going on so maybe im not being as watchful as i should have been and he promised me he would do a good job and I would be very pleased, I haven't got time to be watching every workmans move , I didn't think this would happen again after being recommended him from a tile shop, I stupidly thought he would be good at his job

with all due respect sparkle, we're tilers, not The Samaritans, all we can comment on is what we see as relates to our profession/trade.

 

[John Benton]

Jesus, where the bloody hell is Jeremy beadle.
Seriously, you could not make this up

I'm just waiting for when the alien appears and you can ask if it wants 'a nice cup of tea'

Beadle's About - Alien Prank - YouTube

 

[sparkle333]

and that's all im asking for nothing more, just trying to explain why I wasn't as watchful as I should have been, but some having a dig at me isn't helping to be honest , im guilty of being too trusting that's all , I just wanted to know what isn't up to standard and not acceptable so on weds I can tell him , that's all,

 

[Mr Tiler]

how long did the work take him sparkle?

 

[Dougs Third Go]

and that's all im asking for nothing more, just trying to explain why I wasn't as watchful as I should have been, but some having a dig at me isn't helping to be honest , im guilty of being too trusting that's all , I just wanted to know what isn't up to standard and not acceptable so on weds I can tell him , that's all,

in all fairness, it's a rip-out and re-do, you haven't had a good experience and certainly not a "duty of care". I'd certainly be seeking re-imbursement and costs, these cowboys really do need to stop trading/ripping people off.

 

[sparkle333]

its hard to answer that cos he came and only stayed 3-5 hrs each time , first wk 3 days of 3-4 hrs, to remove tiles and patch up wall, next wk again no full days about 3 days again, I think he stayed slightly longer but left no later than 3pm and started 8.30, hes not been here for a wk now, but said hes coming back on weds ,but doesn't know full extent of snag list

 

[Dougs Third Go]

how long did the work take him sparkle?

wtf has that got to do with it??? quality first speed second..

 

[sparkle333]

I cant have it ripped out easily now cos ive had plumber put in my shower cubicle doors, omg this is a nightmare , and would have to have someone come and take them out and reinstall etc, this is going to cost me loads that I don't have , I knew it wasn't that great but honestly didn't know it was that bad :-(

 

[Martyn Leeds]

So, in a nutshell,

The 1st issue was between you and the lady tiler - after advice from here, you managed to sack her off and get some money for replacement tiles/materials etc.

Then you recruited a 2nd tiler through your own means, you did your own 'research' and 'trusted' this manger of a tile shop who is related to the postman's uncles dog - or whatever..

The guy starts work, does a day or 2 and gets paid most of the money up front, on the promise that he'll return to do a bit of siliconing?

Then we notice that things aren't quite right and come back here for advice again, de-ja-vous?

I'm struggling to come up with some positive ideas for you to be honest.
I think the blame should be split 3 ways, the manager for recommending a div, the cowboy for being a div, and you for not learning anything from the 1st episode

 

[John Benton]

You should have been on the ball Sparkle with what happened first time round. I'm sorry but a pic on a mobile phone does not always tell the whole truth, either way, good or bad.

You were recommended by a fair few people to get to see the guys work before allowing him to start work in your bathroom., you clearly chose to ignore that advice.

You are back to square one, with an unacceptable bathroom, and going down the route of recompense from this cowboy.

A word of warning for any tradesmen you allow into your house. Firstly check for spurs at rear of ankle and secondly, make sure you check their mode of transport. If there's a horse outside steer well clear!!!!!

 

[Mr Tiler]

wtf has that got to do with it??? quality first speed second..

do you even know why I am asking????? unless it took him one day in and out she should of been checking his work as he walked out the door and brought it up when he turned up the next day. sparkle it was very foolish to pay this man after what had happened previously you had a serious amount of advice and support from the guys on this site. you should have listened to it... all you can do is try and get what you can out of this guy when he turns up because I doubt very much you will see him again once you confront him

 

[Qwerty]

I have read all posts relating to your predicament and I'm sorry but I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said by others (and as I said previously on one of the other posts).