Van drivers - take note.

[Stan001]

Dunno if it worth mentioning this to anyone looking at buying a van – or even many that do already have a van, cos many don’t know (and with the growing virus of average speed cameras which work on number plate recognition and it only takes big brother a little time to link their video recording to your registered vehicle type – if they haven’t done already) – many vans are restricted by law to 10mph less than a car on a national speed limit road.
I understand the law is based around if the van is car derived or a pukka proper van – a panel van.
I think the weight rating of the van is a definer and the threshold limit is 2000kg.
So if you drive a panel van your speed limits are basically 10mph less on NSL roads, i.e. single carriageway / A road = 50mph (in your car its 60) and dual carriageway = 60mph (in your cars its 70)
(and be careful to check out your van cos seemingly car derived models can fall into panel van category – I think the old VW Caddy was a car van but the new VW Caddy is a panel van (check me someone)

So if I were to race Richards little Smart Car (the 365Drills bananawagen) from Lands End to John o Groats in my Peugeot Expert and we stayed off motorways – he would probably beat me – :yikes:

This is a 20 year old law and many still don’t know about it.

Fyi ...

Clarification of national speed limits for vans
Clarification of national speed limits for vans
It is very important for drivers to bear in mind that vans (and all goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes) are subject to lower national speed limits than cars on both single and dual carriageway roads.
Whilst a car may travel at up to 60 mph on single carriageways and 70 mph on dual carriageways vans are only allowed to travel up to 50 mph on single carriageway roads and 60 mph on dual carriageway roads.

 

[White Room]

There was a post on this a while ago but allways a good reminder though.

Van derived cars are not included in this I thought

 

[diamondtiling]

Never heard of it Stan, my van can carry 2.8 metric tonnes and goes like a merc sprinter so its a van van if you like.

Is this an old and never enforced law?

My old man is allowed by law to have a pee up the rear wheel of his taxi (hackney carriage laws) but I dont think he ever has.


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[White Room]

Heard on my local radio that a guy had been nicked on this law, he had never heard about it either.

Another old law is a pregnant women who needs a pee can do it in a policemans dome helmet, about time they had a sort out of the old ones

 

[DHTiling]

It was posted a while a go yes... but like mentioned then does not apply to all vans.

 

[diamondtiling]

You can still legally shoot a welshman in Chester and a Scotsman in York with a bow and arrow.

All able bodied Men have to practice their bow skills for an hour on a Sunday.

Any person found cracking an egg at the sharp end will spend 24 hours in the stocks (Edward V1)

It is Illegal to whistle on a Wednesday

It is illegal to die in the houses of parliament

You are not allowed to enter the hull of the titanic without written permission from the secretary of state.


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[Stan001]

Any van that is rated over 2 tonnes total laden weight is speed restricted by law. So check your log book.

(i wish there was a list on the www somewhere showing what is and what isn’t on the list – the general word is only the very smallest vans get away with it. I think this issue will become more of an issue for us with the planned introduction of many more average speed camera systems – these work on number plate recognition, and its only a matter of time before they are tweaked to do more than catch people travelling at more than the average speed – catching vans going at car speeds will be one such tweak IMHO)

Diamond – do you want the bad news or the bad news?

 

[hillhead]

interesting.
I had a big load in my van today,pallet of marble:yikes:
couldn't get massive speed up anyway,lol.
i prob could have been done for overloading.

 

[diamondtiling]

Stan I payed £70 for a book 5 years ago, it has got me out of parking tickets, 2 jumped up speeding fines (one with a camera). Its a little piece of gold, 3 friends have successfully challenged speeding fines and heard nothing.
And my 'speeding' was on quiet roads and I was not speeding.
They rely on people that just pay up.
If anyone gets a ticket/fine on here pm me and I will gladly let you know what the book says.

A for instance would be last November, I came back to my van and there was the ticket, it was for parking on double yellow lines. A quick look in the book gave me the exact measurements for these lines and guess what? they might as well not have been there, a letter to the council got no response, the fine went up to £120, a court appearance with my solicitor and they dropped the charge 20 mins before the hearing after seeing our evidence.
'The man' can be beaten matey. You have no bad news for me.

:lol::lol:

 

[White Room]

You can still legally shoot a welshman in Chester



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Gooner needs to be carefull then

:lol:

 

[diamondtiling]

Gooner is a c o c kney living in foreign parts so he might be safe. Hope Brian never does a job in York.

:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Stan001]

Been doing some google research. Seems like Ford with their new model Transit Connect made the same boo-boo as VW with the new Caddy. The new Connect is ... wait for this ..... 25kg over weight, so therefore restricted – yup, weight of a bag of addy. The crazys in suits up in London are dictating the speed of my van based on a law that was written when the Bedford CF puffed up roads and disk brakes and ABS where alien technology. What if this cobweb covered law ,which is all very clearly explained in the highway code, was applied to 4WD drivers – do we think there would be a discussion on that one. (so my Pug van isn’t allowed to go as fast a Range Rover driven by the mummy-unit with a pack full of her screaming offspring loaded in the rear hacking down the twisties to be delivered to school – hummm.)

 

[Dan]

All crazy but true. On average more than 1 law a day has been added since labour came into power. (Apparently). Get that bloody government out for the sake of these damn crazy laws and lets have some common sense put back into Britain!

 

[Prem Tiler]

I wasb warned about this when picking up my vivaro sportive from vauxhall. had never heard of it b4 that.

I'm guessing merc sprinters are exsempt from even the NSL as i oftern see them pass me going over a ton! lol

 

[diamondtiling]

Bring back Screaming Lord Sutch

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