Van speed limits

[Highlander]

My cousin is a copper and works in the Traffic Police and when I asked him about the vans as I have a Kangoo he said limit on normal road is 60mph the Traffic I had was 50mph. However they very rarely pulled anyone over in a Traffic or Transit size van for traveling at 60mph same as they rarely pull over HGV 1 drivers for traveling at 50mph on a normal road when they should be doing 40mph.

Gary

 

[brian c]

CHEERS FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE FORE RUSS,i have an escort van and wasnt aware of this ruling soi i will take heid.

 

[Mark B]

Shortly after getting my van (VW Transporter) I was stopped as part of an excercise by the West Sussex police to check that van driver knew about the applicable speed limits for good vehicles. They were handing out stickers to reminder you

Mark

 

[CLAYS TILES]

My cousin is a copper and works in the Traffic Police and when I asked him about the vans as I have a Kangoo he said limit on normal road is 60mph the Traffic I had was 50mph. However they very rarely pulled anyone over in a Traffic or Transit size van for traveling at 60mph same as they rarely pull over HGV 1 drivers for traveling at 50mph on a normal road when they should be doing 40mph.

Gary

we're to clever to get caught thats why they neva pull us over!:lol:

 

[Bolter]

So what gives? I have a Transit Connect LWB High roof.

That sticker suggests I can drive as normal? Or not? :huh2:

:driving:

 

[Grace'sDad]

Thanks for pointing this out, I had NO idea!

I reckon though that if you are driving "sensibly" then you aren't likely to be pulled over. If your van is not an absolute bucket then the police are unlikely to want the paperwork.

 

[TilingLogistics]

I have overtaken Cop cars on these roads and never been pulled. I had no idea this law even existed and I saw this very useful post earlier this week whilst I was away working in Bath.

The first thing I did when i got home tonight was ask my wife (Driving Instructor) What would be the quickest you would be allowed to drive my van on a single or dual carriageway road with a National Speed Limit sign and her answer was 60 and 70 so she didn't know either:huh2:

Kev

 

[Mark B]

Shortly after getting my van (VW Transporter) I was stopped as part of an excercise by the West Sussex police to check that van driver knew about the applicable speed limits for good vehicles. They were handing out stickers to reminder you

Mark
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So what gives? I have a Transit Connect LWB High roof.

That sticker suggests I can drive as normal? Or not? :huh2:

:driving:

The sticker I was given would suggest that the reduced speed limits are applicable for all goods vehicles under 3.5t.

Having read the info on the DFT link ( Department for Transport - Clarification of national speed limits for vans )

It seems that the limits apply to all vans apart from car derived vans. The paragraph below is straight off the DFT website (already quoted by Cornish Crofter)

Q. Are there any exemptions from these lower speed limits for vans?

A. There is one (small) group of vans which have the same speed limits are cars by virtue of the definitions in Schedule 6 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act of 1984. These are vans that are both derived from a car chassis and also have a maximum laden weight of no more than 2 tonnes. This means that the weight of the vehicle and the payload it is designed to be able to carry when added together do not exceed 2 tonnes. The van design must be a derivative of a car body, it is not sufficient that it looks similar to a particular car.

Mark

 

[Eddie]

Idrive a Citroen Dispatch, a local trafic cop informed me the speed limits for my van are, motorway,70. dual carrageway,60. national speed limit road,50. It's not the police we have to watch for, it's the mobile cameras. If the opperator knows the law, he will do you!

 

[peterhouse]

excuse daft question wat is derived vechile, mean?

 

[grumpygrouter]

It is something that has been developed off a different platform, i.e ford escort car is then changed to be in a van body but runs on essentially the same mechanicals, wheels, engine gearbox etc, and has the same basic "family" shape as the original vehicle.

Not a daft question by the way.

 

[Olz]

excuse daft question wat is derived vechile, mean?

Grumps is bang on, an easy way to think of it is when you see a car that should have windows in the back but just has metal panels instead then its a Car Derived Van, basically when a car manufacturer takes a car and rips out the back seats and doesnt put in rear windows, someone on here has an MG ZR car derived van, cant find the thread.


No wait here it is...........

http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-forum/12319-my-van.html

 

[DHTiling]

Here's some that are car derived vans..


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Car Derived Vans are priced as cars (up to a maximum of 6 meters in length).

This list is only a guide and is not a complete list of such vehicles.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Citroen Berlingo 1.9D 600LX Car Derived Van
Citroen Berlingo 1.9D 600X Car Derived Van
Citroen Berlingo 2.0HDi 600LX Car Derived Van
Citroen C15 Champ 765D Car Derived Van
Citroen Xsara 2.0HDi Enterprise Car Derived Van [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fiat Doblo Cargo 1.9D Car Derived Van
Fiat Doblo Cargo 1.9DSX Car Derived Van
Fiat Fiorino 1.7tD Car Derived Van
Fiat Punto 1.2P 60
Fiat Punto TD 60 (Diesel)[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ford Courier 50 1.3EFi Car Derived Van
Ford Courier 50 1.8D Car Derived Van
Ford Courier 50 1.8TDdi Car Derived Van
Ford Escort 55 1.8D Car Derived Van
Ford Transit Vans and Ford Transit Jumbo are not Car Derived Vans
Land Rover Defender 110 Td5 Hard Top Car Derived Van
Land Rover Defender 90 Td5 Hard Top Car Derived Van
Land Rover Discovery 2.5Td5 Commercial Car Derived Van
Land Rover Freelander 2.0Td4 Commercial Car Derived Van
Land Rover Freelander 2.0Di Commercial Car Derived Van[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2DI-D Long Wheel Base 4Work Car Derived Van
Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin 2.0GDI Long Wheel Base 4 Work Car Derived Van[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Volkswagen Caddy Van 1.9SDI Car Derived Van
Volkswagen Caddy Van 1.9TDI Car Derived Van [/FONT]

 

[peterhouse]

thx guys all clear now

 

[brian c]

thx for that Dave ,im in that category of 'car derived van'. SO CHEERS M8. (No need to panic now)Dont even think it will do 70mph anyway...lol