Another tiling job gone wrong.

[Kilo]

He trades as a tiler. It is in his trade name that he does tiles and mosaics. However, he states on his profile that he also does bathroom fittings and plastering.

 

[Dave]

He trades as a tiler. It is in his trade name that he does tiles and mosaics. However, he states on his profile that he also does bathroom fittings and plastering.

Ok , let us know how you get on..

 

[Kilo]

It may take some time because the small claims court process can take two months + if it ends up being looked at by a judge. However, I will keep you posted as I wanted to give my splash back a go and will probably end up reboarding the bathroom myself. Thats if I am found not guilty, so to say 😉 Thanks again Dave.

 

[TSCTILING]

My humble 2 pence worth is that you should never snag before grouted. A lot of your points are extremely petty, I agree about mitres but lots of lads fix them straight. If I had some one measuring my joints lines I'd pull off just for that. Bad cuts around plumbing fair enough, not the best tilers, fair enough, but you cannot justify not paying. You can hold a retention but my friend if you aren't paying the lads you're a wrong en! 22yrs in the trade still going strong

 

[Kilo]

I like to think I listen to opinions that attempt to deconstruct my argument in the case (sometimes very likely) that I am wrong. In this case, have you not seen the trim? There is bare metal showing from the cut and they don't line up. Plus the tiles are not flush with them. Maybe my points are petty, and i did debate on wether i should pay for what was good. Problem is they went straight to court and have refused to mediate. Which is not cool beans with the consumer act. How can you say i should pay the full amount when they have used the wrong adhesive and preparation for the floor. Maybe a bad comparison, but its like a nurse administering the wrong meds or a mechanic putting the wrong oil in a car. I don't want a tile falling on my head in a few years time.

 

[roadking]

He may well have used the proper adhesive but just mixed it in a ready mix bucket 🤷‍♂️

 

[Dave]

He may well have used the proper adhesive but just mixed it in a ready mix bucket 🤷‍♂️

True 😂 didn’t think if that.

 

[TSCTILING]

I like to think I listen to opinions that attempt to deconstruct my argument in the case (sometimes very likely) that I am wrong. In this case, have you not seen the trim? There is bare metal showing from the cut and they don't line up. Plus the tiles are not flush with them. Maybe my points are petty, and i did debate on wether i should pay for what was good. Problem is they went straight to court and have refused to mediate. Which is not cool beans with the consumer act. How can you say i should pay the full amount when they have used the wrong adhesive and preparation for the floor. Maybe a bad comparison, but its like a nurse administering the wrong meds or a mechanic putting the wrong oil in a car. I don't want a tile falling on my head in a few years time.

I didn't say pay in full. But you have to appreciate everyone's got to eat, but saying that if they choose to go court before attempting to rectify the issues then I'd have to say in all honesty it's not the best way to come to a fair resolution for both parties. It's hard to say about tiling as I don't know what they faced
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Mate maybe you burnt their heads out with the numbered snags. 70 odd in Sharpie... Lol poor c-#ts, they're probably just staring into space drooling after tiling your bathroom, mate there's nothing worse than some ____ writing all over your tiles before you've finished. You know, now and then I leave a tile in I know I'll have to change coz I don't want the rest slipping. Mate have a good heart and pay them some dough. Hold £250 back for pipes, you won't win in court as you didn't specify in writing you want mitred trim etc, fairs fair pal. It ain't my opinion or yours, it's a universal fact. Pay them some money regardless of court. They have bills too and kids to feed
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You seem a cool guy and I guess you feel it ain't right to give them nothing. A court will recognise your fairness if you pay and hold a retention and give them 7 days to rectify or you'll do so at their expense. All the best ✌🏻

 

[Kilo]

I didn't say pay in full. But you have to appreciate everyone's got to eat, but saying that if they choose to go court before attempting to rectify the issues then I'd have to say in all honesty it's not the best way to come to a fair resolution for both parties. It's hard to say about tiling as I don't know what they faced
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Mate maybe you burnt their heads out with the numbered snags. 70 odd in Sharpie... Lol poor c-#ts, they're probably just staring into space drooling after tiling your bathroom, mate there's nothing worse than some ____ writing all over your tiles before you've finished. You know, now and then I leave a tile in I know I'll have to change coz I don't want the rest slipping. Mate have a good heart and pay them some dough. Hold £250 back for pipes, you won't win in court as you didn't specify in writing you want mitred trim etc, fairs fair pal. It ain't my opinion or yours, it's a universal fact. Pay them some money regardless of court. They have bills too and kids to feed
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You seem a cool guy and I guess you feel it ain't right to give them nothing. A court will recognise your fairness if you pay and hold a retention and give them 7 days to rectify or you'll do so at their expense. All the best ✌🏻

You kept saying snags m8. Snags are what I had when I moved in. I had about 70 of them around the whole property. I'm sure you know, but a snag means a minor defect that can be rectified. A dodgy tile stuck to a piece of plasterboard is not a snag and 80 plus pics of tiles that are stuck to the wall and cannot be snagged are what I had to compile for a defense after the 'tiler' decided to leave after i pointed out that their right angle cuts were wrong. I didn't want to waste my time, but I didn't realise how many wonky and badly cut tiles there were until after. Because, guess what I'm not a tiler and I put my confidence in them to do it right. BTW they are my tiles, as I payed for them. I don't appreciate people f%&*()ng them and then demanding an invoice on the same day. BTW I have a six month year old and I need to pay the bill to have another tiler to take off the tiles, put new walls up and do the job right. The adhesive was written as part of the quote as was the BAL uncoupling mat which have both been confirmed by the manufacturers as not right for the job. All the best to you too.

 

[bsc ceramics]

I feel you do have some fair points but some are a little ott, i think you should have let them finish first and grout. (did they ask for payment before they finished?) The pipe cuts are bad but around the door ect once grouted should look fine, even if it needs a thin Silicon bead, think most mitre trims these days as looks better but what they did is not wrong, im sure if you talk calmly with them you can get it sorted, you want your bathroom done and they want to get paid, its worth a try...