chandalier disaster

[Raja]

don

I agree with you that accidents do happen and my main gripe with my guys is that he should have said sorry and maybe this problem would not have got to this.
I have a responsibility as employer to take blame for my employees whatever happens. Was on holiday so missed it all but im not missing now so have to deal with it .
I personally think there is a degree of responsibility to be borne by both parties
and I hoped to make an offer to show goodwill but do not want to implicate myself as being soley to blame.

Johnny

Jonny thank you for understanding what i always think to my self if i was him how would i feel and to what length would i go to make him pay. People who can afford £3200 chandaliers r only 2 types of people
1, Honest pople who are law abiding
2, Dishonest people who are not.......................
Personally i would offer the excess like u said and take it from there.
It must be just my face attract trouble but will give u another example i recently bought an electric garage door and the cowboys suposidly a reputable company came to fit it and it had scratches all over it they knew but didnt say anything they just fitted it i had already paid the £1200 so they looked at me and thought wots he going to do apart from umm and ahh.
Once they fitted it and i noticed the scratches and confronted them about it and they smiled and said we r only fitters ring the director so i did He turned round and said in these exact words " mr. Raja I will offer you £50 discount but there is no way that door is coming off"
i replied " Mr. bleep bleep wont say name that door will b outside ur house bleep bleep wont say the address within 24 hours if not replaced. I think he understood and a new door is due to arrive a week thursay.
I am not trying to bore you with my long epic incidents just want to make u fully aware the society were if the owner of the company had been right iwth me i would have been right with him. If i had to claim on my insurance because of any one u could bet ur life on it his would b going up 1 way or another. best of luck mate u seem to have right attitude

 

[tiler tom]

Come on guys I don't believe some posts. This was a light the customer put the flammable sheet on for christs sake.
If you guys were replacing a kitchen light would you:

A) Isolate at the fuse box and remove the fuse and post a warning or
B) Tell the wife not to turn the light on and hope she informs everyone else.

If the answer was A and you still manage to get electricuted then you are extremley unlucky as somebody must have found the fuse, replaced ignored the notice and switched the power on.

If the answer is B then you are an idiot and it is your fault.

Tell him to swivel.

 

[guy1976]

tell them to get del, rodney and uncle albert to give it a clean for them

 

[Raja]

Come on guys I don't believe some posts. This was a light the customer put the flammable sheet on for christs sake.
If you guys were replacing a kitchen light would you:

A) Isolate at the fuse box and remove the fuse and post a warning or
B) Tell the wife not to turn the light on and hope she informs everyone else.

If the answer was A and you still manage to get electricuted then you are extremley unlucky as somebody must have found the fuse, replaced ignored the notice and switched the power on.

If the answer is B then you are an idiot and it is your fault.

Tell him to swivel.

Tom if it was ur house u wudnt b saying that i think we both know that deep down
if it was me and u said go swivel i think there wud b only 1 of 2 outcomes
a i would join a monastry
b that would b ur last job
We do not know each other but it is ur very attitude of Tell him to Swivel i am greatly against.

When u go to tile a floor and u or the customer covers it with sheets so no muck gets on it what do u do at end of job clear floor of rubbish so customer is happy and u get paid same principle all she was doing was protecting her property and told 1 member of the company she employed she or he was not to know she had to inform everyone including the sun newspaper

 

[Fekin]

Come on guys I don't believe some posts. This was a light the customer put the flammable sheet on for christs sake.
If you guys were replacing a kitchen light would you:

A) Isolate at the fuse box and remove the fuse and post a warning or
B) Tell the wife not to turn the light on and hope she informs everyone else.

If the answer was A and you still manage to get electricuted then you are extremley unlucky as somebody must have found the fuse, replaced ignored the notice and switched the power on.

If the answer is B then you are an idiot and it is your fault.

Tell him to swivel.

That isn't really a good comparrison really, comparing working on electrics without the power being isolated, to a silly customer putting up a sheet to stop a light getting dirty.

While it would of been far better had the customer just tapped up the switch and a small note on it saying not to be used, they did tell a workman in their home that it had not to be used, and that information should have been passed down the line from there on, as the customer shouldn't be expected to stand by the door telling every single person walking in not to use it.

But still the customer should have tapped it over atleast, but as I said, it;'s a funny one to call.

 

[sibs]

Lets put it this way... would any of you have just relied on the tiler to tell everyone else? I thought not! You just wouldn't take a stupid risk like that. Like the foreman said - anyone could've turned that switch on. Customer should've isolated the circuit. No.1 rule in electrics! Seems to me it was the customer who should've taken action to ensure that the light could not have been switched on instead of relying on telling one of your employees to tell his foreman. I agree with Gaz Dave and Tom... get legal advice before you do anything. Hope everything goes well for you

 

[Turkish]

Yepppppppp! The tiler couldn`t really be considered a person in a position of responsibility. Had the client told you or the foreman not to use the light switch then it maybe different. As gutting as it is for the client if you have a £3200 "light fitting" then surely you take EVERY reasonable step to protect it during works......not just tell one tiler not to use the switch, oh, and by the way, could you pass it on!

 

[Raja]

Was very Surprised by some posts my self thought 1 or 2 didnt think like that but have said my bit no more on this subject thank u for your time goodnite

 

[sibs]

I think u missing the point DVT mate if you had spent £2300 on a chandalier would you rely on just telling 1 person not to turn the light on and hope word got around or would you MAKE SURE nobody COULD turn that light on?
I know what I would've done..... common sense!

 

[tiler tom]

Don you are right we do not know each other but I havn't a clue what you are saying in your post.

You go to tile a floor, you or the customer covers it with a sheet ect. Whats that to do with the price of fish.

Tell him to swivel is not exactly the term I would use in that situation it is just short for "im sorry it isn't my fault I didn't place the sheet there you should have turned off the power not expected my tiler to stand next to the light switch and tell everybody not to turn the switch on when he had your work to do".

Fekin I was using the electrics as an example. You would isolate if you cared about yourself or if you didn't want your £3500 chandalier to have a chance of deing damaged.

Tell him to swivel