getting paid (domestic work)

[Marvo]

Maybe this forum would benefit from a Business sub-forum. Business acumen is something that takes time to learn and the lessons are usually expensive especially for the micro enterprises where one none-payer can mean there's no food on the table literally. It's better if you can learn the lessons and avoid the pit-falls without paying the price first hand.

With the unpredictable idiots you can exercise damage limitation by having apayments structure in place and proper paperwork proceedures where everything is in writing and acknowledged by the customer for future reference. Also look at getting involved in micro business coperatives in your area which can provide your business with services you wouldn't normally be able to afford access to such as legal, HR and accounting etc etc.

 

[Dan]

We have a few aspects of business with their own sub forums. Such as marketing and job pricing and trade price checking (or suppliers chat). They don't get hsed that much to be honest.

http://www.tilersforums.com/forums/tilers-forums-arms-professional-tilers-forum.9/

We've always sort of used the Tilers Arms its self as the business forum and some general chats and moans about the trade in general.

 

[Andy Allen]

[QUOhetiler, post: 771462, member: 44073"]mi m8 did you get the rest of your money[/QUOTE]

Yes managed to get it all in the end.
I to am going to avoid the crap tiles....ain't worth the hassle.

 

[Old Mod]

At the end of the day u can have as many safeguards in place as u like, but if they ain't gonna pay, they ain't gonna pay.
It has to be premeditated, they have every intention of bumping u before u arrive, they just try to find the excuse! It's just in their nature!
Oh good where in the arms haha
Which is exactly what I told a client a short while ago, not that not paying was in his nature, but that finding fault was In his nature. Haha He actually took it quite well I'd already explained and physically shown him that it was impossible to get a 64millon dollar job with 10 dollar tiles but he did insist on taking a small piece of timber about 60mm long and rocking it over EVERY single joint both horizontal and vertical and being they were johnsons 300x100 he wondered why there were discrepancies! I spose alarm bells should have rang when he said that it took 3 Tilers to do his first ensuite and that he had to finish it himself! It's amazing how complacent u can get when you're not used to getting snagged and u take it for granted that u won't have that problem! Haha how wrong was I! He moaned about things I didn't know was possible. Don't get me wrong he paid up no problem but still removed two tiles he wasn't happy with in front of me as I was leaving saying he'd do it himself! He nearly got my gauger in a very dark place! Haha live and learn eh!

 

[Dan]

I don't have the patience these days to deal with no-payers who don't have an actual genuine reason. I'd end up doing something daft.

 

[Just Rizzle]

[QUOhetiler, post: 771462, member: 44073"]mi m8 did you get the rest of your money

Yes managed to get it all in the end.
I to am going to avoid the crap tiles....ain't worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]
pleased to hear that m8

 

[Just Rizzle]

[QUOhetiler, post: 771462, member: 44073"]mi m8 did you get the rest of your money

Yes managed to get it all in the end.
I to am going to avoid the crap tiles....ain't worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]

lol
was on a job afew years ago and had a guy working with me who was an x pro wrestler 6"7 tall bald head and a droopy Mexican mustash. the client brought us up some teas and sort of got chatting then out the blue asked if I had ever done a job and not got paid. we were in the final stages of grouting and polishing off. so I stood up and said to the guy if I don't get paid then shaun dosent get paid. and as shauns my credit control manager then its his job of collecting my debts. I then went back and finished of the grouting. he paid up no problem even gave us a tip.
my m8 is on you tube ifyou log on and search colonel brody wrestling you can see him in action against chris benouir owen hart etc etc

 

[Dan]

You could all do with a Shaun. Lol

I get paid up front nearly all the time. Only Google pays on their own terms but it's guaranteed each month and has only let me down around a Christmas a few years ago when they only sent cheques out and had a delay due to something random.

 

[Old Mod]

You could all do with a Shaun. Lol

I get paid up front nearly all the time. Only Google pays on their own terms but it's guaranteed each month and has only let me down around a Christmas a few years ago when they only sent cheques out and had a delay due to something random.

Oh so you're living on borrowed time and money! Haha

 

[Dan]

Aren't we all lol

Who really owns all the time and money.

 

[widler]

My lads have been on a job, big posh house, plastering and rendering, we finished plastering, took them off for a week to do another job, senrmt them back to scratch on the render, asked him for money for finished plastering(couple grand)
His words " not a chance until rendering finished"
What would you do ?
Walk and lose money ?
Or stay and finish and hope we get paid for the lot ?
Ive got someone lined up to paint his nice 40 grand windows if he robs me , cheap as well, £100 for the lot, cheap decorator is that

 

[Just Rizzle]

My lads have been on a job, big posh house, plastering and rendering, we finished plastering, took them off for a week to do another job, senrmt them back to scratch on the render, asked him for money for finished plastering(couple grand)
His words " not a chance until rendering finished"
What would you do ?
Walk and lose money ?
Or stay and finish and hope we get paid for the lot ?
Ive got someone lined up to paint his nice 40 grand windows if he robs me , cheap as well, £100 for the lot, cheap decorator is that

did you not arrange stage payments with this guy
big jobs I invoice weekly with payment in 7 days so basically your working a week in hand then if his money stops so do i

 

[widler]

Ps its been 6 week job, had my 2 lads and a self employed lad , they got paid every week ,i got paid every 2 weeks , the bit left is a bit profit and the rest wages .

 

[widler]

Typing at same time ray

 

[Andy Allen]

I find its the big posh houses with there garage full of expensive cars that are the worst kind of people to get paid from....im sure they look at us like scum... that we should be grateful for the work.
Honest hard working folk that have saved for years to have work done are trying to pay before you finish. ....which makes it even worse when they get screwed by the cowboys out there

 

[Just Rizzle]

I find its the big posh houses with there garage full of expensive cars that are the worst kind of people to get paid from....im sure they look at us like scum... that we should be grateful for the work.
Honest hard working folk that have saved for years to have work done are trying to pay before you finish. ....which makes it even worse when they get screwed by the cowboys out there

im on a job at the moment probably one of the richest people ive worked for she askes for my invoice on Friday mornings befor she takes the kids to school and goes to her shop and office when I get home she texts me to say my monies in the bank were doing 6 bathrooms for her and 200mtrs of stone flooring in the new extention and old hall entrance were half way through the project

 

[aytiling]

the only people Ive had trouble with getting money off is other Tilers Ive worked for.

Same here. I did some work for Diamond Tiling from Crewe, even got the work from an advert he put up on here. I get him out of the ***** on the job, work weekends when my granddaughter was fighting for her newborn life, and he stiffs me for 2 days daywork I did at the end.
Now found a new way of dealing with this though. Instead of issuing a MCOL go with a
Statutory Demand under section 268(1)(a) of the Insolvency Act 1986. Debt for Liquidated
Sum Payable Immediately
Gives them 14 days to pay up or you apply to make them bankrupt.
He'll be getting one of these very shortly.

 

[MTiler]

Same here. I did some work for Diamond Tiling from Crewe, even got the work from an advert he put up on here. I get him out of the ***** on the job, work weekends when my granddaughter was fighting for her newborn life, and he stiffs me for 2 days daywork I did at the end.
Now found a new way of dealing with this though. Instead of issuing a MCOL go with a
Statutory Demand under section 268(1)(a) of the Insolvency Act 1986. Debt for Liquidated
Sum Payable Immediately
Gives them 14 days to pay up or you apply to make them bankrupt.
He'll be getting one of these very shortly.

Ive tried MCOL and hit a brick wall, so annoying. I hope you have better luck than did.
He was an arrogant w****r, and i got him out of the rubbish, it wasnt for a massive amount I just wanted what was owed to me, nothing less, nothing more. But I did gain a new contact, but thats not the point. The first ever tiling job I did I helped out another tiler and never got paid for a weeks work. Another time I worked with a tiler, he screwed up and didnt get all that was owed and expected me to take the hit as well.
Needless to say Im not very trusting.

 

[richie b]

i did a job for a guy who had or still has an indian restaurant who wouldn't pay, he vanished at the end of the job and his wife turned up and point blank refused to pay, when i asked why she said i don't have to explain myself to you just leave or il call the police, this went on for a while until i realised i was never getting the money, so the following weekend a big groupe of my friends and my brother ate at there restaurant running up the biggest bill they could and got up and left, when the guy chased after them for payment my brother refused to pay then explained who he was, the guy was so pissed off

 

[Dan]

Same here. I did some work for Diamond Tiling from Crewe, even got the work from an advert he put up on here. I get him out of the ***** on the job, work weekends when my granddaughter was fighting for her newborn life, and he stiffs me for 2 days daywork I did at the end.
Now found a new way of dealing with this though. Instead of issuing a MCOL go with a
Statutory Demand under section 268(1)(a) of the Insolvency Act 1986. Debt for Liquidated
Sum Payable Immediately
Gives them 14 days to pay up or you apply to make them bankrupt.
He'll be getting one of these very shortly.

You need to have more than one person filing that. I think it's two or more companies who are owed money start the proceedings.

Doesn't get you paid all the time though!

And it can cost you to do it.

 

[Dan]

i did a job for a guy who had or still has an indian restaurant who wouldn't pay, he vanished at the end of the job and his wife turned up and point blank refused to pay, when i asked why she said i don't have to explain myself to you just leave or il call the police, this went on for a while until i realised i was never getting the money, so the following weekend a big groupe of my friends and my brother ate at there restaurant running up the biggest bill they could and got up and left, when the guy chased after them for payment my brother refused to pay then explained who he was, the guy was so pissed off

That's my style. Haha

 

[aytiling]

You need to have more than one person filing that. I think it's two or more companies who are owed money start the proceedings.

Doesn't get you paid all the time though!

And it can cost you to do it.

PM sent

 

[Dougs Third Go]

never really had a problem getting paid on time through domestics,,subbying can sometimes be a bind to get paid within a reasonable time.I find it ironic that customers are always on the phone to you prior to starting a job and during it, but when they need a prompt about payment their phone never seems to be on their person..

 

[Stocks Tiles]

I have just received my PayPal card reader so I can now take card payments at the end, it costs a tiny amount but gets me paid! My quotes state payment upon time of completion so no excuses at all now!

 

[Dan]

It's the future. I always pay on card if the option is there for the added protection.