Has anyone got work in Liverpool?

[sptiling]

I am finding it really hard to get work in liverpool now due to all these polish tilers, coming here and working for a tenner psm.

It is disgraceful!

I hope nobody on this forum employs any pols as they are bad for us, and will eventually take over every aspect of the construction industry.

 

[Fekin]

I know it's a problem with people coming to this country and working for a lot less than we would want\need to earn, but is it really just Polish workers doing you out of business and not people from many other countries as well.

If you want to point the finger at anyone, then it's the goverment that has allowed immigration to get out of hand, and not the people taking advantage of getting a better life for themselves by moving here.

 

[cam_low]

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[howard]

a scouse that wants to work thats scary are u due in court:lol:

 

[IvegotsTILE]

:lol: classic

 

[penno]

I'm doing a job for a Polish family in a couple of weeks

 

[howard]

hope there not from liverpool penno

 

[sptiling]

Thanks Howard, the last time i walked around manchester it was full of tramps mate!
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Dont do the job penno!

be a sport!!!!!!!

 

[Fekin]

Actually the last time I walked round Manchester it was full of gays.

Though I was out on the lash in the gay village, so that might be why :lol: , and before you ask, yes I was with the wife :yes: honestly I was.

It's ok wivers, I didn't say it was just the two of us :17: ... oops, what with wivers with his Borat on and me with my daffyd suit, we took the place by storm.

 

[JOHNNYCLARKE]

well said Fekin.

Its not The Poles fault .
theyve been given the chance by our government and wouldnt we do the same if we were in thier position.
And havent we already, when gods knows how many tilers went to Germany.
And arent we now, by emigrating to countries we are allowed to go to like australia.
Poland is now being overun by Ukranian tilers coz thier government needs trades to cover their absentees.
This has been going on forever just happens to hurt when it effects you personally.


Incidentally I employ ( not subcontract. a rumanian, czech and a pole ) and they are as good tilers as I have ever come across.
I also have more english tilers and we all get on and learn from each other.

There is nothing one can personally do about this problem.

I would rather there was no competition like it used to be a few years back.
But hey maybe thats part of the problem. There was so little competition and it was too easy.

Try harnessing this glut of talent that is arriving here and use it to your advantage.
You just have to weedle out the quality tradesperson and adapt them to our way of doing jobs.

There are useless trades people in and from every country. Cant be that hard to make yourself stand out if you are good not just as a tiler but businessman.

JOHNNY

 

[Raja]

Very unfair to blame 1 particular type of nationality

I am a little asian lad cud say the same about every white man who is also a tiler

Steriotyping comes to mind

 

[tiler burden]

i dont think the problem is the fact that they are polish, or romanian, or bulgarian etc, its the fact that they work so cheaply and therefore devalue our trades and economy..

the big difference when brits work abroad is we want top rates of pay because we always believed (rightly or wrongly) we were the best.

its a fact that we are going into world recession and its a fact that we are at the mercy of eastern europeans being able to flood the country and work well below our standards of pay with no restrictions and effectively ruin our economy because the glut of their money doesnt go back into this country it goes back to their homeland.

its a sad fact that many people are using this economical complaint as a foot hold for a claim for racism when its clearly not. if you are a business man in the uk and your work force is more than 25 percent foreign labour then you our contributing to the countries financial problem (here me out clearly here) when i say foreign i mean the money leaves the country and goes out of our economy!!)

this brings me onto another point here. it seems ok to label scousers thieves or work shy dole merchants as the norm, but if you refer to someone as a pole or what ever part of the world etc, then its racism or politically incorrect???. i have always tolerated this scousesub standard person crap when i have been out of my home town city of liverpool. i have worked all over the country and i can relate to what racism is. liverpool people continually have to suffer this label and its wrong. the reason why it is not recongnised is because we dont go round using it as a excuse or for compensation. we fight back and then get called aggressive, strange world isnt it. maybe in 5 years if you refer to a person from liverpool as a criminal or dolite as a generalism then maybe some nice politician might deem it to be classed as detrimental steriotyping or god forbid , politically incorrect??..

anyway, if your polish then come over here and have a good life, you deserve it and its your right and i mean that sincerely no matter where you are from but for gods sake, charge the going rate, dont under value yourself and then your family will have even more quality of life and the brits will be off your back and everyone will be happy ;0)

 

[Raja]

I Have read back and no where can i see a claim of racism mentioned

U r putting words in ur own mouth mate.

As for there polish etc etc coming over and working for a fiver

It is the good old british public that seeks this discount in workman ship.

No one puts a gun to their head and says employ foreigners

Always makes me laugh how some not all jump on the band wagon stating ohh that u r hard done by and blame others but some times it is a good idea to look closer to home........................

 

[JOHNNYCLARKE]

WITH YOU RAJA

Forgot to add that, does the original post also feel the same about the number of foreigner footballers that are legally allowed to work here and if so how many are there in the Liverpool squad???
Are they taking the place of Liverpools great youth policy or are they simply better and Liverpool is utilising the best that is what is on offer in their view!

I was born in Liverpool / am a LFC fan and I thought we we were renouned survivors/ entrepreneurs in any aspect of life.!!.

I got offered a job a couple of years ago in the Bahamas and have done numerous others abroad .

Do you think I or original poster would have turned this opportunity down because I felt sorry for the local carribean stone fixers.

No chance.

Had a right good time and good money for all my guys becaus I took the chance !!

Johnny

 

[Raja]

Sorry JOHNNY

u have lost me i do not follow football mate