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[pjtiler]

Other end of the scale.

Mrs Smiths bathroom, not a 4 million pound house, just an everyday job in an everyday house, new tiler can do the job just as well to the eye as you can.... you still saying he shouldn't be allowed to work ?

not at all
just get properly trained by that i mean nvq standard at least, heath & safety and cscs would be an advantage
bathroom bashing is a very small part of the tiling industry important true but small
i think i,ll agree to disagree with you bud
we are obversely not on the same wave length

 

[White Room]

i started in 1962 aged 15 came out of my time in 1969 aged 21

Hav'nt you found that over the year's materials have changed which has made it easier for guy's to adapt to whatever trade so training can be shortened

 

[Fekin]

I suppose a full apprenticeship was a big deal back then, but compared to now they simply don't exist like they did decades ago.

Now there are far more one and two man businesses compared to larger companies who took on apprenticeships.

Try finding many places now that offer apprenticeships ? and the way the general economics of this country has changed, young people have a far greater need to start straight into better paid work, and simply cannot live on the minimim wages they'd probably get on an apprenticeship.

But does it really take 7 years to become a good quality tiler, no, I don't think it does, but it is only really people that have served on a full length apprenticeship that seem to take the view that nobody should be allowed to work in our trade without doing so, which is what this forums really about, helping out the new guys into the world of tiling.


Times change

 

[pjtiler]

Hav'nt you found that over the year's materials have changed which has made it easier for guy's to adapt to whatever trade so training can be shortened

good point and of course your quite right
but a 2/3/4 week crash course cant be right
you have only to look at some of the questions asked on the general site

 

[Fekin]

not at all
just get properly trained by that i mean nvq standard at least, heath & safety and cscs would be an advantage
bathroom bashing is a very small part of the tiling industry important true but small
i think i,ll agree to disagree with you bud
we are obversely not on the same wave length

No, it's just a difference of opinion.

You did a full apprenticeship when they we're all the rage, I didn't, but I still turn out quality work and not one single complaint form anything I have ever done.

Now I fully agree there will be many new people out there turning out terrible quality work, but there will also be a lot of "time served" doing shoddy work too.

 

[Fekin]

good point and of course your quite right
but a 2/3/4 week crash course cant be right
you have only to look at some of the questions asked on the general site

But that's one of the reasons why this forum is here :mad2:

 

[pjtiler]

I suppose a full apprenticeship was a big deal back then, but compared to now they simply don't exist like they did decades ago.

Now there are far more one and two man businesses compared to larger companies who took on apprenticeships.

Try finding many places now that offer apprenticeships ? and the way the general economics of this country has changed, young people have a far greater need to start straight into better paid work, and simply cannot live on the minimim wages they'd probably get on an apprenticeship.

But does it really take 7 years to become a good quality tiler, no, I don't think it does, but it is only really people that have served on a full length apprenticeship that seem to take the view that nobody should be allowed to work in our trade without doing so, which is what this forums really about, helping out the new guys into the world of tiling.


Times change

your totally missing the point
i,m not some old duffer that lives in the past
and ive trained quite a few lads that make a bloody good living in the trade
in this day and age 7 years is ridiculous i concore
as far as i know you can still enroll at your local building collage and do an nvq course in 16 weeks or there abouts and they will send you out on site working with the likes of me for a few weeks now isn't that the way forward

 

[White Room]

good point and of course your quite right
but a 2/3/4 week crash course cant be right
you have only to look at some of the questions asked on the general site

To a point I have to agree, I,ve done lime morter couses and the guy that done our training learnt his trade in france and, Yes, took seven years in his training and you could,nt shorten that type of work. I feel that your right in saying about some of the questions asked in the forum but most are backgrounds prep work. Lime morter is the biggest shortest to date for trades for listed buildings.

 

[pjtiler]

But that's one of the reasons why this forum is here :mad2:

ah got you
so this is a site for professional tilers to ask questions about things they should know

and dont bang your head against a brick wall at me young man
ill send the help the aged hitman team round
joking apart you fight your corner well
i hope the tiling game is as good to you as it has been to me over the years

 

[pjtiler]

To a point I have to agree, I,ve done lime morter couses and the guy that done our training learnt his trade in france and, Yes, took seven years in his training and you could,nt shorten that type of work. I feel that your right in saying about some of the questions asked in the forum but most are backgrounds prep work. Lime morter is the biggest shortest to date for trades for listed buildings.

well thats the french for you
every tiler knows a plasterer is a tiler with the brains kicked out:yes:

 

[White Room]

ah got you
so this is a site for professional tilers to ask questions about things they should know

and dont bang your head against a brick wall at me young man
ill send the help the aged hitman team round
joking apart you fight your corner well
i hope the tiling game is as good to you as it has been to me over the years

But it's guys like you Mr pjt that are needed on the forum for your experiance. One day you won,t be here and all that knowledge will be lost,. They should have guys like you at college to teach.

 

[pjtiler]

But it's guys like you Mr pjt that are needed on the forum for your experiance. One day you won,t be here and all that knowledge will be lost.

your only after my rubi when i pop mi cloggs
well its going with me


you never know jc was a joiner after all

 

[White Room]

I,ve got loads of rubi but do a bit ferriting
Done an edit but was,nt in your quote:yes:

 

[Fekin]

ah got you
so this is a site for professional tilers to ask questions about things they should know

and dont bang your head against a brick wall at me young man
ill send the help the aged hitman team round
joking apart you fight your corner well
i hope the tiling game is as good to you as it has been to me over the years

We have already concluded what "professional" actually means :lol: so we don't need to go into that again

As I said earlier, I understand where your coming from, it's just that I don't see any problems with someone doing a short course and can then after a short amount of time turn out good quality work, and only take on what they are able to do and continue to do a quality job.

The big thing is experiance, which is what you have and you can most probably turn your hand to any form of tiling without a problem, but others have to start somewhere, and while they stick to their abilities then I don't see a problem.

 

[pjtiler]

I,ve got loads of rubi but do a bit ferriting
Done an edit but was,nt in your quote:yes:

they use that up here as an excuse for nite sheep shagging
now I'm not totally against it just as long as there good looking sheep