New methods in Sweden

[Kakelman]

Panels ! okay- I think he was talking about inspection locks - if water pipes that are joined and inside the wall - then yes ! you have to have panels to get to these pipes incase there is a leak- plus it is also forbidden to have any water pipes coming up from the floor- they have to come out from the wall- as I said, the rules for a wet room over here are crazy- but you have to follow them or your licence will be taking away from you......

 

[widler]

Wow, thats amazing , all the pipework with joints has to have a panel.so at a shower head or valve you literally have a couple of access panels right in front of you while showering ?
ha e you any pictures of these mate, imstruggling to get my tiny brain around this ?
Does the same apply all around a house, every pipe joint you have to have access too? Im really curious as in britain there would literally be a panel on every wall and ceiling snd floor in every room as pipe joints are everywhere .
Houses in Sweden must look weird !

 

[Kakelman]

Okay ! lets see if I can explain this a bit better - when water pipes have been joined ( pressed ) and they are in the wall - then a access panel must be used-

this access panel will be on the other side of the wall ( not in the bathroom ) - could be in the bedroom or hallway......if this is not possible- then it will be in the bathroom
If the water pipes are old- they will be replaced with this ( photo enclosed )
This will be in the outer wall - In Sweden, we call this Safety water installations - all new water pipes will be controlled here- as I said, there are so many rules over here with bathrooms

 

[Dumbo]

Me and a plumber did this for a guy with OCD who couldn't live with a joint in the wall so all pipes were hep2o running back to a manifold as above he did though have to have joints on the back of the shower mixer

 

[Italy]

Okay ! lets see if I can explain this a bit better - when water pipes have been joined ( pressed ) and they are in the wall - then a access panel must be used-
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this access panel will be on the other side of the wall ( not in the bathroom ) - could be in the bedroom or hallway......if this is not possible- then it will be in the bathroom
If the water pipes are old- they will be replaced with this ( photo enclosed )View attachment 111991
This will be in the outer wall - In Sweden, we call this Safety water installations - all new water pipes will be controlled here- as I said, there are so many rules over here with bathrooms

even in Italy the systems are like this.

 

[Macelroy]

Wow, thats amazing , all the pipework with joints has to have a panel.so at a shower head or valve you literally have a couple of access panels right in front of you while showering ?
ha e you any pictures of these mate, imstruggling to get my tiny brain around this ?
Does the same apply all around a house, every pipe joint you have to have access too? Im really curious as in britain there would literally be a panel on every wall and ceiling snd floor in every room as pipe joints are everywhere .
Houses in Sweden must look weird !

No. Shower valves do not have joints inside walls. The pipe comes out through the wall, has a tanking collar round it, and the shower valve is attached to the pipes externally. If the joint leaks then it leaks into the shower and not inside the wall. It's literally as simple as that.

Pipes are two types: if MLCP then pipe in pipe with no joints, except at the manifold cupboard. If a pipe got punctured by a screw you could pull out the pipe and install a new one with zero disruption or ripping out.

If copper then they are PVC clad half-hard copper on coils (up to 50m). We have them in 12mm in the U.K. for use for oil supplies to boilers etc. They have them in 15mm size to feed showers, sinks etc. If a copper pipe got punctured in service then it would require ripping out. Copper is used in solid substrates, pipe in pipe for stud.

 

[Macelroy]

No. Shower valves do not have joints inside walls. The pipe comes out through the wall, has a tanking collar round it, and the shower valve is attached to the pipes externally. If the joint leaks then it leaks into the shower and not inside the wall. It's literally as simple as that.

Pipes are two types: if MLCP then pipe in pipe with no joints, except at the manifold cupboard. If a pipe got punctured by a screw you could pull out the pipe and install a new one with zero disruption or ripping out.

If copper then they are PVC clad half-hard copper on coils (up to 50m). We have them in 12mm in the U.K. for use for oil supplies to boilers etc. They have them in 15mm size to feed showers, sinks etc. If a copper pipe got punctured in service then it would require ripping out. Copper is used in solid substrates, pipe in pipe for stud.

Video shows full system and installation. Been out since 2009. Similar systems have been around in North America for at least seven or eight years too.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGUv2N5CiOg