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kilty55

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i also havent read all the huge posts so forgive me if im repeatin :thumbsup:

you say you tiled from the left side of the room to the right and this is why you have lost your level,,generally if im doing a door reveal especially bang in the middle of a large wall i would start of by tiling up either side of the doorand then meeting final tile in middle and adjust accordingly if needs be then i would tile either side to meet up with joining walls,i suspect your door reveal isnt plumb which has made you tile down wards slightly when going over it and tiles dont meet lines on end of the wall. i would remove all tiles from the top section of that wall and re do it using the method i suggest.good luck and hope this helps mate ..if it doesnt then slap me with a rubber fish:drool5:
 

tommyzooom

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Tileboy dont feel bad, I admire you for admitting your mistake and seeking advice,
Your first mistake was tiling the wall to the left of the door AND over the door, I would not tile over the door until both sides had been tiled as you could adjust the tiles over the door to compensate for any slight misalignment, it has to be here where you have lost your levels. I would take of these tiles above the door and redo.

One other thing, are you sure the tiles were from the same batch, Different batches made on different machines have been known to be different by a mm or two?

Good luck by the way
 
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Spud

Hey? Not to be funny mate but you think the shower floor looks awful? Oh come on dude...Where's your creativity? What would you have done? Just tile straight mosaic? The entrance of the shower once the glass is in now has an invitation to enter. I think it looks fantastic. Anyway....You're a trained eye my friend, it's obvious you will notice it. Anyone else won't. You have years of experience I'm assuming so give the untrained eye the benefit of the doubt. The architect was there yesterday and she didn't notice anything!!! I'm not one to pull the wool over people's eyes....I just honestly don't see a way out of this other than redoing the whole bloody room. Think about it carefully, it's not possible to just do that piece over. I'd have to lift the entire left hand side of the room 15mm which I can't do...I'm not going to redo the whole left hand side of the room, logistically it's not possible.

Am I wrong here guys? am I wrong in my thinking that it's not just as simple as redoing that one section.....cuz from my point of view it's WAY more complicated than that!!!
hello tile boy i hope i can offer you some good advice ,if you wish to learn any thing from this job you need to forget about how long you have spent or how much money you will or will not make on this bathroom , the standard of what you have done is un acceptible whether the architect or customer notices or not, you have to strip off what you have done and start again buy yourself some red wedge pegs as aswell as using your cross spacers, your levels need to be a good brand such as stabila or stanley fat max or fisco pro or use a pendulum laser level ,the vertical strip on the right hand side of the door is out of plumb and the tiles to the left of this are dropping on the right hand side by at least 2 mm per tile out of level doing anything else other than starting again will be a bodge and you will compromise your reputation and the shower floor does look awful please dont takeoffence this is meant as constructive criticism
 
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hillhead

hello tile boy i hope i can offer you some good advice ,if you wish to learn any thing from this job you need to forget about how long you have spent or how much money you will or will not make on this bathroom , the standard of what you have done is un acceptible whether the architect or customer notices or not, you have to strip off what you have done and start again buy yourself some red wedge pegs as aswell as using your cross spacers, your levels need to be a good brand such as stabila or stanley fat max or fisco pro or use a pendulum laser level ,the vertical strip on the right hand side of the door is out of plumb and the tiles to the left of this are dropping on the right hand side by at least 2 mm per tile out of level doing anything else other than starting again will be a bodge and you will compromise your reputation and the shower floor does look awful please dont takeoffence this is meant as constructive criticism
Well said Gary,
damn good levels are a necessity,
 
F

Fekin

Sorry, but I have not read everything yet, just upto this second page, but if this was me, and I had lost my level somewhere in a room to be as much out as this, then Im sorry but I would feel that I have absolutly no option but to own up to my mistake and rip off and start again.

If you don't come clean with the mess up, and they do notice the glaring level difference, then I wouldn't bank on either being paid, or not doing the other bathroom in that house, or both.

When you lose a line as bad as this mate, this is what seperates the cowboys from the rest, grit your teeth, come clean and do the right thing and rip off what needs ripping off and do a propper job.

Good luck :thumbsup:

ps.

I do agree with Ramic that the shower floor looks badly set out wise, but if no ones complained then fair do's.
 
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Gazzer

Although I have poor eye sight, I can see that the tile with the arrow marked on it in Picture B is thinner than all the rest. That's where you've lost your level, in my opinion. Have you checked the measurements of each tile in that area?


Lol, you havent read the whole thread have you :lol::lol::lol:
 
F

Fekin

Ok guys....seems I have to run through this so you guys see what I see:

We DO see what you see mate, defo no argument there


3. How can I redo it? THINK CAREFULLY guys...If I remove the tiles above the cut
piece there's going to be 15mm gap SOMEWHERE else, you see? Even if I replace
the cut piece with a non cut piece, it's still going to lift the tiles above it by 15mm
which means on the left side of the door the tiles will ALL have to lift by 15mm?
Please tell me you're getting what I'm saying here?

Yes we are getting what you are saying.


I've lost 15mm somewhere and the only way to fix it would be to straighten the now skewed room which means redoing the entire bloody room.

Yep :)

Now, is anyone in agreement with me here. To be honest all I'm getting is everything I've already considered, I'd appreciate some positive feedback not doom and gloom. I know I've screwed up, but it feels as if one of two of you are giving me hell for it which I really don't think is necessary I feel bad enough as it is...be nice lads!!!

The problem is that no one really worth their reputation is ever going to say "yeah, I'd leave it and hope no one sees it"

Only way really is to re-do the room, otherwise your only chancing the client to not pay for the work and trash your rep.
 
D

Daz

Gary hit the nail on the head IMO - "the standard of what you have done is un acceptible".

You need to make good by following Daves' advice....take off the tiles on the RHS of the mosaic, draw a straight line and make good - that'll get you out of this hole and should make things look right.

For reference, I always tile above the door last as this is where you can lose small discrepencies, although 15mm is quite a lot, so don't know what went wrong without seeing the whole room.

Good luck with resolving matters.
 

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