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STINGRAY30
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
thanks dave, beginnig to gets the grip of this game.
thanks dave, beginnig to gets the grip of this game.
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zenman63
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
Hi, Are you gus saying, you have put PVA on as a sealer without watering it down 5-1?
In that case it will peel of, pva as a sealer, never had a problem, it goes right in to the back ground.
I am never to old to learn and I am taking on what you are all saying.
I have some big floors to do, 150m sandstone, 75m limestone etc and would just mix 1 L pva with a 5L water and wash it down with a roller, when its dry I start to fix, never had a problem in over 20 years.
I would never put tub adhesive on wood as you are looking for problems, and would never use tud adhesve in a wet area also, pva or not.
What do you guys recomend as a sealer then?
Hi, Are you gus saying, you have put PVA on as a sealer without watering it down 5-1?
In that case it will peel of, pva as a sealer, never had a problem, it goes right in to the back ground.
I am never to old to learn and I am taking on what you are all saying.
I have some big floors to do, 150m sandstone, 75m limestone etc and would just mix 1 L pva with a 5L water and wash it down with a roller, when its dry I start to fix, never had a problem in over 20 years.
I would never put tub adhesive on wood as you are looking for problems, and would never use tud adhesve in a wet area also, pva or not.
What do you guys recomend as a sealer then?
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DHTiling
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
Acrylic primers....these also prevent ettringite failure when tiling over gypsum substrates..
Acrylic primers....these also prevent ettringite failure when tiling over gypsum substrates..
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spatech
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
Hi everyone.
ABOUT PVA
I HAVE JUST BEEN BROUGHT IN TO TAKE OVER A JOB FROM SOME TILIERS AS THE WORK THAY HAD DONE WAS PRETTY BAD,THAY PARTLY TILED 1 OFF THE BATHROOMS.
I HAD TO FINISH THIS OFF I FITTED ALL THE MOSAICS AFTER PRIMER WAS APPLIED TO THE WALLS.THEN I HAD TO FINISH THE BOTTOM ROW OF 300X600 PORCILINE TILES TO THE WALLS THAY HAD DONE ,WE FINISHED OUR TILING AT THE BOTTOM AND TOP OF THE WALLS THAY LEFT AGAIN WE USED PRIMER BEFORE HAND, THE CLIENT NOTICED SOME OF THE GAPS ON THE TILES THE PREVIOUS TILERS HAD FITTED WERE SLIGHTLY DIFFRENT WE AGREED TO ALTER THESE TILES FOR THE CLIENT, THE CLIENT WAS STANDING WITH US WHEN WE REMOVED ONE THE TILES AND IT JUST POPPED OFF WITH NO FORCE NEEDED ,FUTHER INSPECTION OF THIS REVELED THE TILIERS HAD USED PVA AND THE PLASTER WAS SHINEY THE ADHISIVE HAD NOT STUCK TO THE WALL AT ALL,NEEDLESS TO SAY THE CLIENT WAS NOT HAPPY AT ALL ,HE DECIEDED TO CALL THE PREVIOUS TILERS BACK ,
THAY DONE THE RIGHT THING AND COME BACK TO THE JOB (I WAS SHOCKED THAY TURNED UP).THAY SAID THAY WOULD REPLACE THE LOSE ONES ,THE CLIENT ASKED FOR OUR ADVISE AND IF WE COULD SPEAK TO THE TILERS ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT WITH THE CLIENT THERE.
WE DID THIS AND WE SHOWED THEM THAT ALL OUR TILES WE HAD FITTED BOTH ON OUR WALLS AND THE WALLS THAY LEFT WERE SOUND AND SOLID.
ANYWAY THAY HAD TO ROMOVE ALL THE TILES IN BETWEEN THA ONES WE FITTED.
THEN THAY TRIED TO MAKE EXCUSSES AND SAID WE NO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS ,OUR EARS PRICKED UP AS WE THOUGHT WOW ,THEN THAY SAID IT MUST BE A BAD BATCH OF ADHISIVE ARGHHHHHHHHHH ,I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THIS THOUGHT AS NOW THAY WANTED TO CHARGE THE CLIENT FOR MORE ADHISEVE THAY HAD BEEN USING NICOBOND ,
WE HAVE DONE LOADS OF TILING IN THIS HOUSE FOR THE CLIENT AND HAVE HAD NO PROPS WITH THEM AND THAY LOVE THE WET ROOMS WE HAVE DONE AND ALL THE FLOORS ,THIS WHEN I ASKED THE TILERS IF THAY PRIMED THE WALLS THE REPLY WAS (YER MATE COUSE WE AVE MATE ),I SAID WHAT WITH HIS REPLY WAS (F ING UNIBOND MATE )I NEW THIS OF COURSE I TOLD THEM U MUST USE THE PRIMER THAT IS WHY THE TILES YOU HAVE FITTED ARE FALLING OF THE WALL AND OURS ARE SOLID ,THAY SAID YER WE DONT USE THAT S--T STUFF, THERE U GO NO TELLING SOME PEOPLE ,I HAVE INFORMED THE CLIENT HE ASKED AS IF WE COULD TAKE THIS OVER AS WELL ,AS HE HAS NO TRUST WITH THEM ,WE CANT AS WE DONT HAVE TIME
ANYWAY THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS PLEASE USE PRIMER......BIT LONG WINDED BUT I GOT THERE IN THE END .SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING BUT I AM A TILER NOT A TYPIST. THANKS
Hi everyone.
ABOUT PVA
I HAVE JUST BEEN BROUGHT IN TO TAKE OVER A JOB FROM SOME TILIERS AS THE WORK THAY HAD DONE WAS PRETTY BAD,THAY PARTLY TILED 1 OFF THE BATHROOMS.
I HAD TO FINISH THIS OFF I FITTED ALL THE MOSAICS AFTER PRIMER WAS APPLIED TO THE WALLS.THEN I HAD TO FINISH THE BOTTOM ROW OF 300X600 PORCILINE TILES TO THE WALLS THAY HAD DONE ,WE FINISHED OUR TILING AT THE BOTTOM AND TOP OF THE WALLS THAY LEFT AGAIN WE USED PRIMER BEFORE HAND, THE CLIENT NOTICED SOME OF THE GAPS ON THE TILES THE PREVIOUS TILERS HAD FITTED WERE SLIGHTLY DIFFRENT WE AGREED TO ALTER THESE TILES FOR THE CLIENT, THE CLIENT WAS STANDING WITH US WHEN WE REMOVED ONE THE TILES AND IT JUST POPPED OFF WITH NO FORCE NEEDED ,FUTHER INSPECTION OF THIS REVELED THE TILIERS HAD USED PVA AND THE PLASTER WAS SHINEY THE ADHISIVE HAD NOT STUCK TO THE WALL AT ALL,NEEDLESS TO SAY THE CLIENT WAS NOT HAPPY AT ALL ,HE DECIEDED TO CALL THE PREVIOUS TILERS BACK ,
THAY DONE THE RIGHT THING AND COME BACK TO THE JOB (I WAS SHOCKED THAY TURNED UP).THAY SAID THAY WOULD REPLACE THE LOSE ONES ,THE CLIENT ASKED FOR OUR ADVISE AND IF WE COULD SPEAK TO THE TILERS ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT WITH THE CLIENT THERE.
WE DID THIS AND WE SHOWED THEM THAT ALL OUR TILES WE HAD FITTED BOTH ON OUR WALLS AND THE WALLS THAY LEFT WERE SOUND AND SOLID.
ANYWAY THAY HAD TO ROMOVE ALL THE TILES IN BETWEEN THA ONES WE FITTED.
THEN THAY TRIED TO MAKE EXCUSSES AND SAID WE NO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS ,OUR EARS PRICKED UP AS WE THOUGHT WOW ,THEN THAY SAID IT MUST BE A BAD BATCH OF ADHISIVE ARGHHHHHHHHHH ,I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THIS THOUGHT AS NOW THAY WANTED TO CHARGE THE CLIENT FOR MORE ADHISEVE THAY HAD BEEN USING NICOBOND ,
WE HAVE DONE LOADS OF TILING IN THIS HOUSE FOR THE CLIENT AND HAVE HAD NO PROPS WITH THEM AND THAY LOVE THE WET ROOMS WE HAVE DONE AND ALL THE FLOORS ,THIS WHEN I ASKED THE TILERS IF THAY PRIMED THE WALLS THE REPLY WAS (YER MATE COUSE WE AVE MATE ),I SAID WHAT WITH HIS REPLY WAS (F ING UNIBOND MATE )I NEW THIS OF COURSE I TOLD THEM U MUST USE THE PRIMER THAT IS WHY THE TILES YOU HAVE FITTED ARE FALLING OF THE WALL AND OURS ARE SOLID ,THAY SAID YER WE DONT USE THAT S--T STUFF, THERE U GO NO TELLING SOME PEOPLE ,I HAVE INFORMED THE CLIENT HE ASKED AS IF WE COULD TAKE THIS OVER AS WELL ,AS HE HAS NO TRUST WITH THEM ,WE CANT AS WE DONT HAVE TIME
ANYWAY THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS PLEASE USE PRIMER......BIT LONG WINDED BUT I GOT THERE IN THE END .SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING BUT I AM A TILER NOT A TYPIST. THANKS
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David - Tradetiler
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
Ouch , do you have a Caps Lock key?
Hi everyone.
.SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING BUT I AM A TILER NOT A TYPIST. THANKS
Ouch , do you have a Caps Lock key?
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nhgfc
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
my first post on here and its confession time!!
I have ALWAYS pva'd at around 6 to 1 before any tiling i've done.
But after sitting here reading every single post on this thread and my heart has sank like the titanic:yikes:
Cue the sleepless nights worrying about all those tiles i've layed over the years😳
my first post on here and its confession time!!
I have ALWAYS pva'd at around 6 to 1 before any tiling i've done.
But after sitting here reading every single post on this thread and my heart has sank like the titanic:yikes:
Cue the sleepless nights worrying about all those tiles i've layed over the years😳
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DHTiling
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
Are you still going to use pva..?..:smilewinkgrin:
Are you still going to use pva..?..:smilewinkgrin:
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brian c
Re: P.v.a. Versus Primers......
hes away to hang head in shame.:yikes:
hes away to hang head in shame.:yikes:
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