Sand And Cement As Adhesive?

[assegayer]

30 minutes and just when you think he's going to lay a tile the video stops

hahaha same happened to me when first watching, the second one i think shows the actual laying

 

[The D]

what im trying to understand is how does the tile pyhsically grip to the bed of sand ?

not to the sand but to the cement and with porcelain it will be to the added polymers

 

[Andy Allen]

No, on a price - remember I am getting the floor level too...this could be 5 inch screedbed.....can you imagine pricing that up in SLC.

the price would include the laying in S&C .... I reckon I could lay 15m a day (no labourer) using 600m x 600m

think of the time saved against money spent when building. It is a shame we have left this method behind.

Would you need leveling clips using this method..

 

[p4ulo]

Blimey, I'll never get that time back, watching that fella in the videos....
Like watching some crazy old school alchemist at work; tubs, bags, pots and ladles all over the place!
Don't fancy trying to move that massive "grab-bag" full of dry mix when he needs to tile in that corner!!

 

[Italy]

Last year I also did a garage sand concrete, the size 300x300. but this trend I do not understand if you're joking, or you believe you can do that job in the video ..... tilers without consciousness there are still around is the type of video will have scored at least 4 tiles, that guy in there works 3 world. update which is better. no hard feelings

 

[Italy]

Would you need leveling clips using this method..

ues,the new self-leveling stone and iron type fred flinston

 

[Brian the Tile]

Sand and cement fixing = proper tilers,how many on here can do it ? Remember we can use adhesive but can you fix tiles with s&c

 

[Italy]

Sand and cement fixing = proper tilers,how many on here can do it ? Remember we can use adhesive but can you fix tiles with s&c

you can make sand concrete, but with the size of the video, you can not say that the work and 'perfect

 

[peteablard]

Sand and cement fixing = proper tilers,how many on here can do it ? Remember we can use adhesive but can you fix tiles with s&c

How often do you fix tiles using this method? If it was a situation that I came across on a regular basis then I would learn how to do it but in 12/13 years I've never once found the need to do it. I'm upset now as I always considered myself a proper tiler but obviously I'm not!

 

[Brian the Tile]

No ive not used s&c for many years now but if the occasion rose i could , just saying

 

[Old Mod]

Haha good to see u posting again @Brian the Tile,
Nice to see u haven't changed!

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

you cannot beat s/c fixing out side on paths and patio s .if you need to lift a floor height up 30 to 50mm on concarete .you will not do it faster or cheaper than fixing with s/c an avarage tilers that i worked with would lay and tile 20 m2 a day a top one 30 to 40 m2 a day .

 

[One Day]

Sand and cement fixing = proper tilers,how many on here can do it ? Remember we can use adhesive but can you fix tiles with s&c

nah! There are plenty of old school tilers who could fix with s&c but can't tile for toffee!

 

[Italy]

nah! There are plenty of old school tilers who could fix with s&c but can't tile for toffee!

you are old!!!!!!! lol

 

[Italy]

you cannot beat s/c fixing out side on paths and patio s .if you need to lift a floor height up 30 to 50mm on concarete .you will not do it faster or cheaper than fixing with s/c an avarage tilers that i worked with would lay and tile 20 m2 a day a top one 30 to 40 m2 a day .

then I was a top......... was...

 

[Brian the Tile]

855, member: 42603"]Haha good to see u posting again @Brian the Tile,
Nice to see u haven't changed! [/QUOTE]
No,no change from me and Can still kick it either way with the rest and them that think they are the best ,just saying

 

[Dhtiling]

It is not a difficult way to fix tiles, the problem is who has a the room in their home to allow the tile to come up so high. If the builder has dropped the floor for you, then there is no better way, though that video was a sad demonstration.

 

[Aston]

this method is not as 'skill demanding' as some people are making out. any decent modern tiler could crack this in 2 weeks. tiling walls in sand and cement would take a little bit longer but floor tiling is not difficult.

what is apparent reading this thread is, some people still can't rely on their own personal experience and understanding when it comes to setting times, adhesives admixes and bonding agents.

if i said, would sand and cement stick to a glass wall, pretty much all of you would say no, it would not be able to stick/bond/adhere. you would all agree that we would have to add something really sticky or to the glass and the mix? so use that same rationale when in comes to a porcelain tiles, dense concrete, bitumen or anything else that doesn't allow the penetration of water in a controlled period of time..

i'm honestly not patronising here, i understand that people can get a bit over awed when old schoolers come on and talk about the 'old ways of the force ;0) lol listen, trust me, learn and understand your setting times and adhesion and do a bit of floor levelling with a few bags of wet sand and a level and you will be so confident, you'll wonder what all the fuss was about (once again, sand and cement wall tiling is a bit more time consuming and a bit more tricky because you have got gravity working against you that's all.

 

[Andy Allen]

I've been tiling all my working life and I'm 50 next month and I've never used s/c to fix tiles and in all that time I've never came across a situation where I needed to.
And if I did I would give them Brian's number...lol
Sounds to much like hard work to me......and I ain't got a cement mixer..

 

[Italy]

This is my thought, up to 10/15 years ago, I placed only s & c. Now with tiles present, increasingly less thickness, larger and larger, of course, to have less thick tiles, the cooking is automatically lifted and the flatness is not perfect, poses s & c is no longer suitable. Now with a leveling system it is also able to accommodate a non-planar tile.
After this, I think a young tiler although it is capable of s & c there is nothing wrong, instead think of laying a floor with s & c, might consider to qualify on factors concerning the future of the tile example: thin porcelain and its equipment or systems of that type scluther UK are used a lot.
this is just my thoughts, then every tiler is free to think what he wants, if in previous posts I have expressed adequately only because I thought it was a joke, I thought that pose S & C is no longer considered being outdated .sorry) I do not want to talk about the videos, because that person is not a tiler.
p.s I think I thought too .......

 

[Brian the Tile]

But you must have a shovel lol,bloke i served my time with used to say he had a mixer if anyone asked ,walks talks and brews up ,me lol

 

[Brian the Tile]

Nowt wrong with a bit of hard work, and the easiest way is not always the best way

 

[J Sid]

I've been tiling all my working life and I'm 50 next month and I've never used s/c to fix tiles and in all that time I've never came across a situation where I needed to.
And if I did I would give them Brian's number...lol
Sounds to much like hard work to me......and I ain't got a cement mixer..

50 next month, have I read that somewhere before.......not getting worried about it Andy?.....
I'm the same as you and started at 19 and all I did for the first 5 years of my tiling life was labouring then apprentice in the art of floor tiling into sand and cement doing factories, breweries and dairies.
Some of these floors were big , 12 to 15 times the size of a football pitch.
All pointed in black epoxy.....
They were the days ..

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

well s/c has its place when you have to tile a floor and they want to fix the kitchen 3 days later but need a 30mm+ plus build up on concarete there no better way some tilers have been tiling for years and have not offered this because they dont know how to but thats not there fault they just never got the chance realy its quite easy to do when i get a bit of time i will do a vid and show just how easy it is and how quick

 

[White Room]

That'll be good Ray.