tiling over chipboard floating floor! help needed

[widler]

I didn't think there are joists in a floating floor ? I thought it was floating,ie onto kingspan onto bison beams or something of the sort !

 

[Mr T]

Well when I typed in floating chipboard floor in google images there were diagrams of the chipboard with joists underneath thats why I asked the question could you just screw the chipboard down to the beams below to make the floor solid enough to tile on!

 

[widler]

God knows then,I've always thought floating floors had no joists,just insulation and something like caber flooring floating on top! It's what they called it anyway on all the sites I've worked on.
A floor with joists and boards on top were just called ,well,floors,I don't know why they would lay boards over joists and not screw/nail em,daft really

 

[Mr T]

I was thinking that myself tbh mate doesnt seem to make much sense unless the chipboard is easily weakened by have screws put through it

 

[ythan]

what a rubbish thread. Arn's not replied and........ no wonder. Trust he got on OK.

for a better discussion see: http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-ad.../10940-tiling-over-floor-grade-chipboard.html

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

what a rubbish thread. Arn's not replied and........ no wonder. Trust he got on OK.

for a better discussion see: http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-ad.../10940-tiling-over-floor-grade-chipboard.html

I remember that thread and it was rubbish, an uneducated (in tiling) Diyer who got lucky, he's not been on for a while, I wonder why? has his chipboard floor failed perhaps? Ythan are you a tiler? and do you tile on chipboard?

 

[ythan]

yes, tiled on chipboard using bal fast flex and wide joint bio microflex. no problems.

checked that the floor was deflection free, and mixed and laid the addy carefully, and bedded the tiles properly.

pity that thread got closed and not allow the diy'er to update. I've little doubt the tiling is still OK. that thread has had nearly 14,000 hits.
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[ythan]

ooops not 14000......over 23000 hits.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

yes, tiled on chipboard using bal fast flex and wide joint bio microflex. no problems.

checked that the floor was deflection free, and mixed and laid the addy carefully, and bedded the tiles properly.

pity that thread got closed and not allow the diy'er to update. I've little doubt the tiling is still OK. that thread has had nearly 14,000 hits.

tiling over floor grade chipboard

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GirlRacerRed
07-10-2011

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Thanks for your reply Ythan, but you didn't answer my question, "are you a tiler?" if so what are your qualifications? if you don't mind me asking, I am always interested to know why people would give bad advice on a pro tilers forum. Your experience and background would really intrigue me.

I will gladly share mine with you. Please do respond to this as I am trying to understand your reasons for thinking that chipboard is under any circumstances a suitable substate to receive any type of tile.

 

[Stef]

I will stick my two bobs worth in,

Bal FastFlex (Elastomeric) states on the bag that you can tile direct onto chipboard.

I for one would never ever tile direct to chipboard, not even with fast flex.

It must be over boarded 1st, Hardie etc.

 

[ythan]

hello, phil.

yes, i welcome & thanks for your curiosity.

No, you're right, i don't do tiling for a living..... i guess what you mean by 'are you a tiler?'. i appreciate that professional tilers have to somewhat protect their trade.......but on this 'pro tilers'? forum, some contributors don't seem to behave very professionally.......dare i say some of the hubris behaviour is like that of bankers.

note that non professional tilers coming to this site are looking for good technical, considered advice. some of the comments from some contributors are just not professional and bullying albeit with a bit of banter......as in that closed chipboard thread.

on a personal note, for your info, i'm a retired very highly qualified civil engineer (offshore north sea oil), who has very much enjoyed doing several projects of home tiling.....though i would not want to do it as a new career.

On a comparative day rate, I'm probably the most expensive tiler in the uk, luckily, my only client is..... me.

i'm just now about to start a 4th project.

best,
ythan

 

[prceramics]

this is what we are up against

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Thanks for that mate, I knew you were not a tiler, and while we are polishing our buttons I don't go on highly qualified engineers sites and spout rubbish. I am very proud of my achievements in my industry, I was the first tiler in Britain to be awarded a CSCS Heritage card, I have been nominated for the very prestigious Master craftsman accreditation..So I think you should keep your DIY comments to yourself. I sit on the TTA fixer training committee to try to get some skill back into this industry, I do it FOC, So having to listen to people like you who have know idea about tiling winds me up. Please feel free to PM me if you would like to take this conversation further. If not stick to what you know.:mad2:

 

[prceramics]

at the end of the day by tiling the floor you are accepting that the substrate is suitable for tiling, so if it goes wrong its down to you and you alone that's why i feel most tilers would walk away

 

[ythan]

hmmmm, i think i see your point......just....... you don't like wickes. a reputable company.


meanwhile, bal is the only product i've used and so far it's been faultless. bal fast flex and wide joint micro bio gout.....well worth the extra cost and time to mix.

 

[prceramics]

on some wickes tile boxes there is a handy tip, it says why not tile over your existing tiles to save time :mad2:

bottom line is there is some very bad advice being given out by so called reputable company's these guys on here will give you the best advice available

 

[bugs183]

Sorry Ythan i really don't agree with you here about the fellas here behaving like bankers, or being protective.
If they were they'd have said ah 'flexible adhesive, tile it you'll be fine, just make sure you get paid'.
The guy wanted to know what he could do about tiling onto chipboard and he got the correct answer, don't!
Floating floors and chipboard are a dreadful idea and are not suitable to tile to ever, you've been lucky, yours haven't failed, but turn that into a day to day situation and you cannot afford to take risks, as these floors do fail.
The guys lately have been finding it more and more exasperating when good advice is asked for and then completely ignored, to the point were members will stop offering advice.
I've been tiling over 20 years and kinda know my stuff, there are guys here, many on this thread that wipe the floor with me in knowledge, and if they say 'do' or 'don't' do something in regards to tiling, it's going to be the correct advise.
I personally dislike know alls' and closed shop mentality, this is why i'm on this forum, because of it's members.
And no Wick's adhesive is awful, there is no one here that would say it is reputable, it seems reputable means it sells a lot, or our staff can recognise the word 'wood' on it. Stick with Bal or Mapei.

 

[White Room]

hmmmm, i think i see your point......just....... you don't like wickes. a reputable company.


meanwhile, bal is the only product i've used and so far it's been faultless. bal fast flex and wide joint micro bio gout.....well worth the extra cost and time to mix.

Let me tell you about Wickes, B&Q adhesives, they are bought off the major producers but are down graded so they sell cheap.

Bal are an expensive adhesive and there many products that will do the job far cheaper but your've got to be in the trade to know where to buy.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Very highly qualified civil engineer. Bully for you mate, your day rate must be very impressive. No bullies on this site mate, only pro's trying to make a living among a lot of wannabees who talk sh1te. Do PM me, maybe we could meet up and have a chat face to face, not through a keyboard. Your call.

 

[ythan]

hello.. again.. phil,
i've certainly no wish to annoy you, and i think that you giving time free of charge to help apprentices is admirable.

at the same time please accept that i'm only reporting my experience.....and yes i'm an engineer and so to me tiling is another engineering challenge which i'm enjoying. and i'm happy to feed back my experience. lets's all remember that's how we moved on from the simple stone lintol to the skyscraper...and the wheel.... to the rolls royce.....& the fire....to the banquet.

 

[ythan]

phil what's a PM?

 

[White Room]

phil what's a PM?

A private message, if you click onto Phils name a selection of options appears...a private message is one of them.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

hello.. again.. phil,
i've certainly no wish to annoy you, and i think that you giving time free of charge to help apprentices is admirable.

at the same time please accept that i'm only reporting my experience.....and yes i'm an engineer and so to me tiling is another engineering challenge which i'm enjoying. and i'm happy to feed back my experience. lets's all remember that's how we moved on from the simple stone lintol to the skyscraper...and the wheel.... to the rolls royce.....& the fire....to the banquet.

Each to their own Ythan, I worked for a precision engineer a few years back who told me he worked to a tolerance of one hundred thousandth of an inch, I replied yeah well I work until it's right.

 

[ythan]

ok, thanks phil, will do tomorrow....... as it's getting late now.

as regards wickes......couldn't help noticing on prccerammmicc''''s contribution that wickes' spelling of tongued is wrong.

 

[White Room]

Are you here just to wind up....