Van speed limits

[grumpygrouter]

Found out today that a friend of mine is in danger of losing his licence for driving the company van (Citroen Relay) at 57mph on a normal single carriageway road!

Apparantly, the speed limit for vans is not the same as for cars. This is something I didn't know.

For all you drivers of Non-car derived vans, please be aware and take adequate precautions against getting nicked!

Department for Transport - Clarification of national speed limits for vans

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[Gazzer]

I have known about that for years but never known it to be enforced.

 

[Fekin]

Must say it's news to me :huh2:

 

[sibs]

Thanks grumps I have a class 2 lisence and I didn't know that

 

[Perry]

thanks 4 that grumps and can u do anything about lowering corporation tax lol ete

 

[grumpygrouter]

thanks 4 that grumps and can u do anything about lowering corporation tax lol ete

What, yours or the legislation?

 

[cornish_crofter]

This is really silly.

It's a hangover from when the non car derived vans were completely different to drive from cars and car derived vans.

Now, there is absolutely no need for this legislation. To think someone could lose their livelihood over this outdated legislation absolutely disgusts me:mad2::mad2:

The other issue that we should all be aware of is van derived cars suffer the same limits as vans. That includes anyone in a Merc V class, VW transporter camper van, or similar, the Transit variant (not the Galaxy) plus a load of others that I can't think of right now. It also includes those small Citroen vans that are also sold as a cheap estate car!

In fact if it started out on the production line as a van, you're stuffed if your clocked doing 60 on the wrong road!

 

[DHTiling]

The larger vans like ...Transits: relays : sprinters : all come under this speed law....but the smaller vans that do not exceed 2 tonnes laden weight don't...

So vans like astras : fiestas : escorts : scudos etc will be fine...

 

[cornish_crofter]

Dave, unfortunatly it's not that simple

Car, max 60mph - Mondeo, Astra etc Land Rover Discovery (unladen weight 2 tonnes)

Van, max 50mph - Transit, Trafic, Sprinter, Vito etc

Car derived van max 60mph - Astra van, Escort Van, Corsa Van etc Land Rover Discovery Commercial (2 tonnes unladen weight)

Van derived car max 50mph - Citroen Berlingo - YES Berlingo 5 seater car (derived from the small citroen van) , same weight as a Vauxhall Astra and about twice as slow. Anything that could be derived from the Ford Transit Connect. etc

...so do you see the stupidity of it:lol::lol::lol:

There was someone on the Honest John forums a while ago driving his Citroen Berlingo (car) who got done for driving above 50 on a national speed limit road.

 

[CLAYS TILES]

only hgv come under the law,they was thinking of reducing 7half tonne lorries being reduced down!
vans are still classed as 3 tonne or under & is not restricted!

 

[CLAYS TILES]

i might be wrong....................
Department for Transport - Clarification of national speed limits for vans

 

[cornish_crofter]

Clays, it seems to be centered around the 2 tonne gross weight and the fact that a van may not be derived from a car.

There is one (small) group of vans which have the same speed limits are cars by virtue of the definitions in Schedule 6 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act of 1984. These are vans that are both derived from a car chassis and also have a maximum laden weight of no more than 2 tonnes. This means that the weight of the vehicle and the payload it is designed to be able to carry when added together do not exceed 2 tonnes. The van design must be a derivative of a car body, it is not sufficient that it looks similar to a particular car.

 

[cornish_crofter]

i might be wrong....................
Department for Transport - Clarification of national speed limits for vans

oops, we both posted together :lol:

 

[White Room]

I've got a Transit and had no idea about this and bet theres plenty of other van drivers who did'nt either

 

[Perry]

What, yours or the legislation?

he he my wifes lol