Wetroom tray envelope cut setting out challenge

[SB4U]

So just to clarify, are you saying to just leave that amount of lippage on those tiles or to build up the adhesive on the tiles in the tray to form a steeper slope and meet the level tile?

@Dan Are you going to let me know what the testing is about too, considering you were using my luverly thread as your test bed?

 

[Old Mod]

Yes Steve, just bed the first time into the former up with a little extra adhesive. Just make sure u have a full bed beneath it. It's not as daunting as it sounds.
Praps replicate it with a couple of tiles and a board first, just to see how easy it is.
You can do it!

 

[SB4U]

Thanks for the vote of confidence mate and your good advice as always. Although I'm going to have to give this some thought I think. I can't say that I'm particularly happy about doing it this way if I'm perfectly honest.

I'd have to lift all 4 parts of the envelope to get them to line up properly which will be a faff I'm sure. One of the reasons for buying the former in the first place was to make tiling the fall easier. Plus we'd planned around that size of tray with regards to the shower and shower screen position. I didn't think about the tiles lining up when I bought it though annoyingly.

No doubt it would look better without all the cut tiles on the perimeter though.

 

[Old Mod]

Don't be swayed by me if you're u comfortable Steve.
It's important ur at ease when u carry out the work
Good luck.

 

[SB4U]

But you're my guru.

 

[Dan]

Oi lay off him. He's my guru.

 

[Old Mod]

But you're my guru.

Oi lay off him. He's my guru.

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Kill me someone!!! Pleeeeeease!

 

[SB4U]

Guys. I've cut the tiles and laid them out today (@3_fall you'll be interested to know that I followed your advice and went for the overhang on the surrounding tiles).

However, I've encountered a problem. I completely failed to take into account that I need a grout line between the halves of the diagonally cut tiles!

I've not cemented the tiles down yet, do you think that if I got a tile file I'd be able to shave enough off to get a grout line? Or is there another way you can suggest, that hopefully won't involve getting a table saw and cutting new tiles.

Steve

 

[Qwerty]

In short, no. You will need a wet saw or a good blade and steady hand using an angle grinder. How were you proposing on cutting out for the drain?

 

[Mr Tiler]

How you get that room so square? Lol just jokin

 

[SB4U]

Thanks @Plan Tec Tiling I'm so disappointed. I don't know why I didn't think about the grout line. What a fool. Oh well, I suppose I'd better buy a wet saw.

I was simply going to cut the corners off the half tiles for the drain using my manual cutter. I'd only laid the drain on the top for the photo.

 

[Old Mod]

Looks good @SB4U nice job!

 

[Old Mod]

Thanks @Plan Tec Tiling I'm so disappointed. I don't know why I didn't think about the grout line. What a fool. Oh well, I suppose I'd better buy a wet saw.

I was simply going to cut the corners off the half tiles for the drain using my manual cutter. I'd only laid the drain on the top for the photo.

Steve,
Geoff ^^^^^is absolutely right that is the best way forward.
U could hire a wet cutter, maybe for even half a day, rather than the expense of buying one.
Depending on how hard the tile is u could also scribe your cut line with a mechanical cutter then using a pair of tile nippers remove the offcut.
Then tidy up the edge with a carbarundum stone.
It's fiddly work, but it can be done, depends how confident you are.

You managed the transition between the floor and tray then without too much bother?
Are u pleased with the result?

 

[SB4U]

I looked at hiring one but it seemed pretty expensive. Plus I would need to hire a transformer too. Might be just as well to buy one and sell it on ebay afterwards. Although all the ones in Screwfix etc look pretty rubbish really.

Tile isn't very hard but I did try scribing a line and nibbling it last night but the result looked pretty awful. That said, I didn't tidy the edge with a stone.

I think doing the tray as per your suggestion was definitely the best way of doing it. Obviously I've only laid the tiles in place at the moment but I like the way it looks. Hopefully (when I get the cuts done) I'll be able to get them bedded down evenly.

 

[Unused Account 1]

Do the former with mosaic ,it looks better ,and creates a feature that follows the former ,looks much better

 

[cbmltd]

If you've got a local worktop company who does granite or marble,take the tiles in and ask them to cut a couple of millimeters of each tile.should only take them a few minutes and if your nice enough or tell them your planning on getting your kitchen done they may even do it free

 

[Dan]

Hire a saw for a hour or take the tiles into topps tiles I think they do a tile cutting service still.

 

[SB4U]

As always, thank you all for your advice and support. I've ended up buying a cheapo wet saw from Wickes and cutting them again. It was actually better than I thought it might be and seems to have done the trick. They're a bit chipped on the edges but I've used a stone on them to get the worst off and I'm satisfied enough with the finish now.

Now to cut out for the drain and cement em in place. Gulp.

Thanks again.
Steve

 

[p4ulo]

Nice one @SB4U, that looks excellent, well done for persevering!!! A quick whip of grout over the lot and it'll look amazing!

 

[SB4U]

Many thanks @p4ulo mate. I'm pretty pleased with it. It took a lot of effort but I personally think these type of trays look better than mosaics.

One more question on this though... What should I use to fill between the tiles and and the edge of the drain? Grout or Silicone?

 

[p4ulo]

What kind of drain have you got mate??
My Schluter one was set in with adhesive, tiled up to, then grouted in with everything else.
Check your instructions, it should specify.

 

[SB4U]

It came with the @Impey Showers aquadec. It's a stainless steel grate attached to the gully. The picture in the top right seems to show something between the tile and the frame but it doesn't say what it is.

 

[Old Mod]

It came with the @Impey Showers aquadec. It's a stainless steel grate attached to the gully. The picture in the top right seems to show something between the tile and the frame but it doesn't say what it is.

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Did u attach two images Steve?

Can u circle on the diagram the item u mean please, cheers.

 

[SB4U]

I've changed the pic and circled the bit I mean mate.

 

[Old Mod]

I've changed the pic and circled the bit I mean mate.

Is that not a silicone joint?