What a bodge up in the bathroom

[lawrenso]

Hi Guys,

I am working away at the moment and had a tiler in doing the bathroom. The tiles are 600*300 Youngstone laid in landscape in porcelain from CTD in two colours - light in the middle (4 high) with dark top (1.5) and bottom (2) - with strips of square glass mossiac inbetween the different colour changes (so two strips)

The first weekend I got home and looked at what I could see and had to pull him up on the fact that he bad but the quarter round beading over both the cut outs for the hinges and also over the door catch striking plate. Could not really tell what the rest was like due to it still being battened out.

last weekend - I got home and found a mess basically.He had osrted the hinges out but not the striking plate

He has tilled the wall around the window. at the bottom he is quite on although the cut edges are very rough and uneven. On the left hand side of the window, the tile edge runs away from the window to stand proud by a aprox 1cm from the window edge. Also, along the top and down the right hand side edge he has used spotting. I have checked with my own spirit level (2 mtr) and found that it is the tiles that are angled away from the wall - not vice versa. In the top right hand corner of the window I can stick my little finger in towards the first knuckle and you can actually look down the gap and see the spot fixing and bare wall and tiles. I also do not see how he can put the beading

Also, worringly you can look down the gap and see the bits of board he has had to use to pad out for the glass beads.

We have had him leave out the tiles around where the bath is going to be fitted, and where the head of end of the bath is you can feel a simular gap where you can get a little finger in. It also appears that he has only used a 6mm bed from what I can see

Also, there is differences in levels - ie the bottom two tiles are forward of the 4 beige above by about 4-5mm leaving a noticable ledge, and a lot of the glass mosaics are very proud or sunk and even twisted.

I would say that out of the whole room, one wall is good.

Now I have approached him on this and he has blamed the walls. However, I prepped the walls, removing the old tiles, the emulsion (was only half tiled), making good, WPB tanking etc and although I would say they weren't totally perpindicular there were in a pretty good condition. 2 walls are wet plastered and two are plasterboard on studs (screwed). He told me that he has had to spot out up to 1/2" behind some tiles, and there is nothing he can do about it.

To me it looks like he has gone out with a tile and then it has grown bigger and bigger - perhaps because of the 6mm bed.

He also planed the door edge (not the top or bottom) and kn%&"*ered that so we need a new door now:furious3:

So here are my questions

1. Should the tiler inform you before starting if the walls are out (I believe yes to indemnify himself)
2. Grouting - these are a rectified edge tile - should it be grouted to the surface?
3. Should the grouting be done before the job is finished and should the grouting go the full thickness of the tile/mosaic (as ours isnt even 1mm thick in places you can stick your nail through it).
4. What come back have I got on the guy ie if we need to have tiles removed etc.. to put the job right

This guy has been trading for a few years (lives local)

All help and advice welcome

Cheers

Steve

 

[LM Ceramics]

from that pic it doesnt look to bad but its when you look closer at the wonky mosaics and packed out tiles then you see the problems in my view had this tiler paid more attention to detail ie prep th walls make sure there flat especially with a mosaic border(not using hardboard to pack them out) then we might have been looking at a different job from this guy

 

[CJ]

Shocking :yikes::yikes:

 

[lawrenso]

The guy is a nice guy - polite and everything. I think that he has bitten off more than he can chew working with this complexity of pattern with the large format, not ensuring the tiles went on even causing him to have to drift out further with the rectified edges....

The trouble is - what do I do, in an earlier post I theorised that possibly it could cost upwards of 2K to put this right - money we could do without having to fork out during this environment - but do we take him to the small claims court where we could end up wiping him out in this environment. To coin a phrase - the devil or the deep blue sea....

Steve

 

[sWe]

That's not even workmanship...

 

[White Room]

He might be a nice guy but the work is dire

 

[Colour Republic]

From the first few pics I couldn't tell what was so bad and then... Oh! oh I see what's happening now! Did you ask him to make your bathroom smaller?

I really don't know what to suggest, sorry.

This is :yikes: (rotate picture)

BTW if he hasn't cut too much off the door, that damage can be repaired with wood filler easily enough. In trying to cut the door down he's run an electric planer along the bottom of the door and hasn't been carful enough when getting to the end which has splintered the other side

 

[2Balls]

Substandard!!!if they start coming away from the wall in a year or so, leave them on his doorstep!:yikes:2Balls

 

[doug boardley]

The guy is a nice guy - polite and everything. I think that he has bitten off more than he can chew working with this complexity of pattern with the large format, not ensuring the tiles went on even causing him to have to drift out further with the rectified edges....

The trouble is - what do I do, in an earlier post I theorised that possibly it could cost upwards of 2K to put this right - money we could do without having to fork out during this environment - but do we take him to the small claims court where we could end up wiping him out in this environment. To coin a phrase - the devil or the deep blue sea....

Steve

The guy needs to made an example of imo, what if he continues to trade to this standard and before long a tile is gonna come loose when perhaps a young child is in the bath?! Nasty!!

 

[tile55]

Shocking workmanship, could this not have been pointed out to the guy as he was working, so you could nip it in the bud before it got worse.

 

[lawrenso]

Shocking workmanship, could this not have been pointed out to the guy as he was working, so you could nip it in the bud before it got worse.

Hi Tile55

I work away Monday to Friday offshore at the moment. My wife is hopeless as well when it comes to things like this.

When I came back the first weekend I pulled him up on the edging round the door going over the cut outs of the hinges and over the striking plates - he did have a go at rectifying the hinges but decided to hack the door instead :mad2:. But everythig was battened out and no mosaics were up.

He had put battening under and above the beige tiles and a batten where the lower mosaics are and a batten 1 tile above the floor and it was impossible to really tell the condition as it was basically only the beige that had partly been done.

It was only on coming back the second weekend and finding this mess.....


Steve