Whatever it takes for preparation

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Been on here a few months now and have noticed some tilers don't do their own preparations, especially walls? I do whatever it needs, even if it means installing extra dwangs to suit Wedi boards, installing Wedi boards, taping, tanking etc same as floors. I'm interested, the tilers who leave it to someone else, I see your point as it's a quicker turnover of job and you can concentrate on just tiling but how do you know it's been done to what you recommend?
 
I don't do any wall preperation except tanking. mainly because there is no need for me to do it.
I will avoid any removal of old tiles at all costs because I hate it. Most bathrooms i attend usually are having a rip out and re board. I do want to start offering overboarding with wedi etc, if they want to pay for that.
 
Localtiler said:
I don't do any wall preperation except tanking. mainly because there is no need for me to do it.
I will avoid any removal of old tiles at all costs because I hate it. Most bathrooms i attend usually are having a rip out and re board. I do want to start offering overboarding with wedi etc, if they want to pay for that.
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So are you happy enough with what has been done normally?
 
I do everything myself, haven't found anyone here I can trust. Plus the fact that there's always a surprise waiting for you such as this floor that started off as a simple ufh job... 20170703_164745.jpg
 
callatiler said:
Concrete blown?
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Concrete would have been nice! It's a very weak mortar under which is assorted rubble, pebbles and gravel until you get to the slab. At least it gives me the opportunity to make sure there's a damp course and decent insulation.
 
Localtiler said:
50 / 50. I don't don't take on bathroom re fits, usually through a plumber and I walk in and tile.
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Yes same Andy don't do plumbing etc, only when there is a leak, but when I quote usually customer tells me joiner is going to put new plasterboard on walls and green plasterboard in the shower. That's when I advise them about paper faced boards and weights and Wedi boards etc so if it's a joiner that has never done this before they will do rip out and plumber will do the new pipe work then I will go in and do the Wedi board installation. Some of the joiners I work with have spent time with me to learn how to install it and I can trust them to get on with it. They actually prefer it as bathrooms are normally smallest places in house and trying to install 2.4metre sheets of plasterboard!
 
All depends on the budget of the job really, I do more floors than anything these days. I've been to look at a wet room today which is a plumbers own house, tray fitted, painted plastered walls, 12mm ply on the floor. Felt like banging my head on the wall.
 
i dont do plumbing.. but wood work and boarding prep of walls i do all myself. Im still to meet a plasterer that can board plumb and spot on as me.. (not blowing my own trumpet sorry if it come across like it) but i just dont understand how other trades cant get walls n floor level or flat. It really not that difficult
 
Job I'am on they were going to have the walls bond coated and plastered. I advised (told them really) that tiles were too heavy for plaster and I installed Wedi stuck and mechanically fixed. Before I even got to tile the wall panels the render all fell off! Yes they fixed a finished render coat to all the walls and within 2 weeks it was all on the floor!
 
So, the most common problem I come up against is like today's job I've looked at, a bathroom needs tiling and it's all skimmed walls, and when i break the bad news, it all goes quiet. Most certainly they have got somebody that tells them what they want to here.
 
I had a fella the other day call me up and was as pleased as punch about telling me about his newly skimmed moisture resistant PB!
"Oh yes" I replied, with that unnoticeable tone of cynicism in my voice. (Who me?)
And what material would you like affixed to your newly plastered moisture resistant PB? I asked, with eyes half closed waiting for the punch line!
"Oh 15mm marble!" He said all pleased with himself at his choice of select material.
Can't remember how long the laughter lasted, but it must have felt like an eternity on the other end of the phone.
Once I was in a position to breathe again, I calmly explained the pitfalls of applying lead weights to wallpaper, and without hesitation he said "ok, I'll rip it out, what should I replace it with, Ply?"
And on it goes, the plight of a tiler.

Whilst I admit this was written with a little artistic licence for the purpose of a little levity, I can PROMISE you, the specifics are true!
So help us God!
 
I always take it back to blockwork, stud and reboard myself. Spent 7 miserable years trying to polish turds - will never go back to working like that
 
You see that's the thing, I did a big bathroom last week, but only had to tile, ok I did lay the heated wire and slc but then it was tiling again, and yes I struggled to cut the tiles but it was a quick turnover as didn't have to do any prep work on walls as all done for me. I made good money and if I could do that all the time then I don't mind pricing jobs per m2. Its when the job takes twice as long and you don't get twice the money!
 
I am never out of pocket on a job as it's clear what I am doing and I know what's involved. The problem is with wall prep, honestly I think people don't beleive you or think it's ok to tile on painted skim because some other tiler didn't mention anything, just score it up mate it's fine.
 
Plan Tec Tiling said:
I do all my own prep, charge a healthy amount for it and earn very good money. No waiting around, no guess work, no disappointments and a good earner too.
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You see that's the problem, sometimes the prep is as long as the tiling but customer not going to pay double quote for tiling. So you do the prep for a reduced rate or you get plasterboard or plaster skimmed walls!
 
Andy Allen said:
Imo the building trades gone to ***** .
30 years ago you could get excellent trades men that could plaster a wall or screed a floor spot on.
Now it's full of chancers after a fast buck with no care what so ever about the crap there turning out !!
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So very true Andy, I don't do much site work now as I can't stand the hassle, but every once in a while when something seems like a good earner I will, but I'm on a small hotel job atm, some of the walls the plasterers have had 3 goes at and they still aren't right, the guys who did the stud put a 20mm bow in a 1.8 m wall, the plumber set his shower valve too far out then the borders just screwed back around it and caused a massive bow , the same thing with a soil pipe. And the lobby floor just got over boarded with ply (200 year old house with oak joists) and the state of that was unbelievable!! Never done a latex pour like it in my life! I found 2 walls that are actually straight and Plumb across 9 bathrooms it's appalling. And all you get from the site manager is can you just get over it, as long as it looks right it's fine. Will be the last of the site work again for a good while
 
callatiler said:
Been on here a few months now and have noticed some tilers don't do their own preparations, especially walls? I do whatever it needs, even if it means installing extra dwangs to suit Wedi boards, installing Wedi boards, taping, tanking etc same as floors. I'm interested, the tilers who leave it to someone else, I see your point as it's a quicker turnover of job and you can concentrate on just tiling but how do you know it's been done to what you recommend?
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The more people u involve the more room there is for disappointment so I do as much as I can my self I'm eve getting into laying sand and cement screed
 

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